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Side by side question

I could have asked this in the firearm forum but I'm looking for the opinion of the bird hunters so I'm asking it here.

I'm looking at getting a new SxS for no other reason other than I want one. I currently own a Stoeger Uplander and for the money it's a good gun, it shoots straight and goes bang everytime I pull the trigger. Plus I don't mind when it gets beat up. The down side is its heavy and the fit of everything is marginal.

So now I'm looking at getting something nicer. My budget is $1500 or so. I've been just looking on the internet and wouldn't buy anything without holding it first and seeing how it fit. I like the Ugartechea grade 1 and the CZ bobwhite. Does anyone have experience with either of these? The CZ has screw in chokes and is half the price. Is the Ugartechea a much higher quality firearm?

I also wouldn't mind a good quality used gun but I'm not sure what I should be looking for.

Any advice is apperciated.
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Not familiar with the CZ guns. I have handeled Ugartechea at Lion Country Supply. They are much better and lighter than the Stoeger Uplander.

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Re: Side by side question

CZ makes some fantastic upland guns.

A CZ sxs in 20g is my next purchase. Not sure yet on the model.

Right now I am shooting a Browning Cynergy o/u. It's heavy and no better than a CZ at 1/3 the price.

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post #4 of 29 (permalink) Old 01-12-2014, 06:58 PM
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Re: Side by side question

I have an Ugartechea in 28 ga s xs very pleased with it, although it rarely comes out since my last bird dog passed on.

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Re: Side by side question

I prefer the CZ over the Ugartecha. both are good guns with better quality than the Stoeger. just my .02

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Re: Side by side question

I bought a ugartechea grade 1 16 ga. two years ago, I went to lion country supply they had three on stock. The salesman weight them for me two were 6ib. 4oz. the one I bought is 6lb. 3oz. I had their gunsmith open the chokes to skeet 1 and improved cylinder. The gun is a joy to carry and shoots very well!
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Re: Side by side question

Both the CZ and the Uggie are great guns for the money. Some folks have a bias against the Turkish guns, but others like them a lot. I have a 28 ga. DeHann which is just a fancier version of the CZ, and I like it a lot. The only negative I hear about either gun is the trigger pull on some of the CZ's can be a little rough. Don't know how often it happens but I've heard it mentioned more than once.

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I have an Uggie 20 Ga That I gave to my dad to use. Great guns at that price. Another good option if you like a round action is finding a Smith and Wesson Gold Elite made by UTAS in Turkey. They are allot of gun for the money. I believe Cabelas is re-importing them now under the name Dickenson. Another option is to find a nice used Fox Sterlingworth in 16 or 20 Ga. Good Luck with your search.

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I cant comment on the CZ or the Uggie I have however owned a beautiful Grulla. It was a magnificent looking gun in the style of a James Purdey. The problem was it shot 4" low point of aim at 16 yards. No good for shooting rising birds. There are some quality sxs made in Spain and other parts but im a bit gunshy of them. The asthetics may be pleasing but I have no idea how much the barrel regulation is a concern for the manufacturers. Producing a quality sxs is an expensive endeavor that consumes much time and requires skilled craftsmen. Thats why the American guns went by the wayside with mass production. Take my advice for what its worth if it were my $1500.00 I would look for a nice used Fox Sterlingworth or a prewar German made J.P. Sauer or something comparible. It will be a tank and and a fine gun to own. I have a 1918 Phila. made Sterlingworth 12 gauge that weighs 6 lbs. Solid as it was new and will go for several more generations in my family. Could probably find one similar in the 1000 to 1500 range. Im sure some of the newer guns are nice but I would guess they start around 3000.00 . Either way let us know what you decide on. PM me if you like I would be glad to help in any way
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I would go with the uggie.

But then I have a thing against Turkish guns.

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