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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 07-05-2013, 03:35 PM Thread Starter
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.410 for grouse?

So I have been tossing around what gun to use for grouse this year. I used to own a Stoger sxs that I loved for grouse/squirrel/woodcock. I was stupid enough to trade it on a Rem. Spartan sxs because I wanted the screw in chokes. Now I am looking at using one of two of my new guns. I just picked up a 20ga auto of Turkish origin, a nice handling gun and I'm happy with it so far at the trap range. The other option is a Stoger sxs .410. I am very inclined to use this as I was deadly with my old Stoger, but I'm worried about a lack of punch and the tight patern. I wanted to see what you all thought about the .410 since I see most people seem to use 28ga and bigger.

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post #2 of 23 (permalink) Old 07-05-2013, 03:56 PM
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Re: .410 for grouse?

A .410 would be fine if you don't turn off the truck engine.
Otherwise, it's use is unethical, even though a .410 pointed correctly, choked appropriately and at 25 yards or less easily will kill a ruffed grouse.

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Re: .410 for grouse?

If you're a phenomenal wingshot and hunting over good pointers, I'd say "go for it".

I think the fellow of average or even good wingshooting ability (and the grouse) would be best served by the 20 ga. semi.

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Re: .410 for grouse?

Grouse aren't hard to kill but, they can be difficult to hit.
It doesn't take a lot of pellets to bring down a grouse or big BB's to break a wing bone.

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Re: .410 for grouse?

I'm sure it would work for a close shot but I wouldn't.
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Re: .410 for grouse?

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Re: .410 for grouse?

BIG difference between the 20 ga. and .410. You'll most likely be in for a lot of frustration and possibly wounded birds with the .410. Leave it home and take the 20 ga. Hopefully it not a fixed full choke and you have screw in chokes in which case I'd use IC.

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Re: .410 for grouse?

spend some time with the gun. pattern it, shoot some clays with it. my o/u tristar .410 with screw in chokes patterns plenty good enough for grouse. its been a great rabbit gun for me and I have shot a few doves with it as well.
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Re: .410 for grouse?

The .410 is a poor choice for a bird that very quickly puts trees and brush between you and it. Most times you are shooting through brush and limbs to get the bird. You need more shot than a .410 shell has to make clean kills. Hitting birds and wounding them so that they will not be recovered is not the way to go.




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Re: .410 for grouse?

Shooting grouse is a whole lot different than shooting clay pigeons or doves where you can get set up for the shot in a wide open field. Grouse flush quickly and almost always in heavy cover like John said. Even if your .410 patterns well on a static target and you can hit a clay bird with it, you're rarely going to get a wide open shot at a grouse and won't have the pattern density in woods cover when it reaches the target to cleanly kill birds on a regular basis. IMHO you're doing the grouse a disservice to take those kinds of shots with a .410.

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