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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 06-25-2013, 09:00 PM Thread Starter
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Let's Talk "Hand/Shotguns"

I see lot's of beaglers hunt with Contender .410. I also see a few guys using Super Comanche .410. I see a very few using pistol grip 20 gauges at slightly above legal overall length for a shotgun. These are far cheaper than a Contender (Even after paying to have it cut down and Rem-Choked) and IMO is a much more effective load for bunnies.

What are your thoughts?

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Re: Let's Talk "Hand/Shotguns"

Most of the guys that are using Contender's or Comanche's aren't using them because they are the most effective. They are using them because they are the easiest to carry and present more of a challenge. If you have a good beagle or pack of beagles, shooting rabbits will get a little boring after a while. When using the pistols it is more of a challenge. The nice advantage of when you miss is that the dogs get to run it a little while longer. The other advantage is you can make fun of your buddies when they miss.

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Re: Let's Talk "Hand/Shotguns"

Madcatter uses a 20 gauge pistol sometimes. It has no advantage over the .410 Almost everyone I hunt with uses the contender and we kill a lot of rabbits every season. I don't see any advantage to the 20 over the .410

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Re: Let's Talk "Hand/Shotguns"

Cspot knows all about that making fun of your buddies when they miss. He used to miss a lot, but he was the fastest I've ever seen at reloading a single shot and getting a second shot at the rabbit.

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Re: Let's Talk "Hand/Shotguns"

Gotcha guys.

My main concern is not so much missing with the .410 but crippling.

I'm planning on seeing lots of rabbits this season, so the harvest count isn't that important.

I want the portability and the sport of the handgun. I think I'm going to get the Super Comanche to see if I like handgun hunting at go from there.

What type of range do you feel a Contender is good for? I'm guessing 15-20 yards on it's best day? What about shells?

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Cspot knows all about that making fun of your buddies when they miss. He used to miss a lot, but he was the fastest I've ever seen at reloading a single shot and getting a second shot at the rabbit.
Do you mean like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84PdU-22azE

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Re: Let's Talk "Hand/Shotguns"

Exactly!

The contender can easily kill at 30 yards. If I were you I would look at the Rossi .410 pistol before the comanche. Cspot used to have a comanche and it was a fairly cheap gun, I never really liked it much. The trigger pull is about 30 pounds on it.

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The Comanche is functional, but it is not a well made gun.

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Are these even legal without a federal tax stamp?
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Re: Let's Talk "Hand/Shotguns"

Thanks for the input guys. I will look more at the Rossi.

I would really prefer a contender or encore.......

But I decided to invest in as many hounds as the local government allows , with GPS tracker trainer and vet bills for each one, as well as replacing all the crap they have chewed, eaten, or peed on; a Rossi is going to be at the top of my budget for this season.

Dobson,

The .410s we are discussing are all rifled and legally a handgun. A 20 gauge, or any gauge for that matter would have a barrel over 18" and an overall length of 26", making it by law a long gun.

While it wouldn't be worth the hassle of all the government permits, I think a stainless encore 20 with a 12" ported barrel would be a sweet piece.

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