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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 11-16-2012, 03:39 PM Thread Starter
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What do you see when you shoot?

I have a great Brittany, but I am a terrible shot. The dog is constantly giving me great points and then I am missing the bird. I have practiced all year shouldering my double and moving/pointing at different objects. Alas, I still miss most of the time. I have shot almost two boxes of shells at pointed birds and have gotten three. Sadly, that's about a 3% average. I am afraud my dog will run away soon if I don't improve.

I have been trying to train myself to sight along the barrel before I shoot, but it seems that I do better when I just bring the gun up and fire.

For those that can shoot well, what do you see when you shoot? Are you aware of the bead on the gun or do you just focus on the bird?

Any tips for how to improve my shooting ability would be gratefully appreciated by me and my dog.
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Re: What do you see when you shoot?

I just focus on the bird, very rarely can I actually see the bead or rib on the barrel.

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Re: What do you see when you shoot?

I don't get a lot of shots at birds but I do shoot trap. First thing I was told is keep both eyes open. It was very hard for me to adjust from 1 eye to 2, but it definitely helps you see the bird better and get on it faster. Next thing was they told me to just focus on the bird, the gun will follow your eyes. Then depending how it's flying, the lead on it.
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Re: What do you see when you shoot?

I focus on the bird and when I bring the gun up and the
bead meets the bird I shoot. It's how I practice and shoot
in the field. Practice shooting clays and you will get much
better at shooting flying game.

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Re: What do you see when you shoot?

another Pilgrim,
Let me help you just a little, 1st your double gun must fit you correctly both cast and drop, and you must know how your gun patterns. Then you must learn to set up correctly as you approach your dogs point. Learning to walk the woods or fields and set up for actual bird gunning is not like shooting trap or skeet. If you shoot clays for practice, start gun down safe on, and have the puller launch at will, then you have a more realistic practice for actual bird gunning.
3rd you must learn to remove your safe and mount your gun in one smooth flawless action, it becomes instinctive after a while. You should shoot with both eyes open, concentrating on the bird, you must always lead the bird
as you shoot, so the bird flies into your shot pattern. Learn the correct way to shoot a rising or falling bird, there is a difference. In reality when Grouse hunting you have 3 tenths of a Second before a mature Grouse puts something between your gun and him. Setting up properly to gun the bird is a learned operation for a human, there are really few instinctive gunners.
If you are up this way in December pay me a visit and I will help you out.
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Re: What do you see when you shoot?

Human reaction time is usually about 0.20 s.

Lots of luck

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Re: What do you see when you shoot?

timberdoodle,
Absolutely correct, the bird however must be 25-30 yards away for your double gun to pattern correctly, a Grouse hunter usually hits both trees and bird when he takes/kills the bird. If the tree is to big, or the hunter mounts his gun poorly, the Grouse wins everytime. The best Grouse gunners in the world only have a 1 out of 3 life time average here in Pa.
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Re: What do you see when you shoot?

Concentrate on the bird, start the gun behind the bird, pull through and when you pass the head slap the trigger. When you are playing baseball, you don't look at the bat when you are hitting, you concentrate on the ball. Same thing with a shotgun.



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Re: What do you see when you shoot?

If you look at the bead or the barrel you're missing the bird. Gun mount and focus on what you want to shoot.

Check out NSSF. Gil Ash has some nice instructional videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXo0W...feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqklsrDvV...mp;feature=plcp

Best of luck & have fun

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Re: What do you see when you shoot?

Spring for a proper gun fitting at Woodcock Hill in Benton. You will spend a whole morning working on gun fit and mount. Well worth the money.
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