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post #1 of 75 (permalink) Old 12-13-2011, 01:13 PM Thread Starter
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Grouse in SWPA

Well after hunting steady from early archery season until now, being in different areas, driving deer, still hunting, stand hunting etc. I am upset to realize i didn't kick out one single grouse. They used to be plentiful in our area, and no one hunts them so they didn't get shot out. I fear the birds of prey, foxes, and yotes have taken their toll on them and wiped them out. I talked to several guys that hunt different areas doing the same thing, and none have seen a grouse. Any of you guys experiencing this?
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Re: Grouse in SWPA

This was my first year as a grouse hunter. Got a Brittany who was trained by a professional handler. Hunted in 2G and 2F every day of the early season. Not all day every day but at least a couple hours and some days all day. Guess I must have been in the wrong places but we saw 2 birds the entire season. I talked to at least 10 other hunters including some PGC folks and heard almost the same thing..."Yeah, we used to have lots of grouse but they seem like they are gone in the last few years"...or similar words.

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Re: Grouse in SWPA

How much logging is going on in the areas you hunt, and how close is it to other areas that have been recently logged?

I know we don't see many grouse in areas that were loaded with them 10-20 years ago, but it's because the habitat has matured not because the predators wiped them out. Places that were clearcut within the last 10 years hold plenty of grouse, especially if they have other cuts in close proximity. (And they aren't there because there are fewer predators in those areas.)
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Re: Grouse in SWPA

We haven't had grouse in 5 - 8 years, and we do plenty of timbering.
Any one that doesn't believe that predators killing then year around from the hawks and owls to the the nest raiding coons and skunks aren't taking a huge toll, you simply are not playing with all 52 cards.
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Re: Grouse in SWPA

Very few grouse on our club over the past few years. However, we cut sapling and in 3-4 acres this last Winter and
I few have shown up in that area. We plan to do more work to promote grouse.

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post #6 of 75 (permalink) Old 12-13-2011, 02:18 PM
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Re: Grouse in SWPA

There are even less grouse in south east,have seen very few for a lot of years.The only place with decent numbers is the north west and north central.
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Re: Grouse in SWPA

I am going out shortly to prove to myself once again their are very few grouse in my area.

I still remember the good old grouse hunting days of the 80's...setting at work watching it snow hoping we would get off work early so I could go grouse hunting.

Hunt for an hour or so and harvesting two grouse. I remember on one such occasion getting two birds before I got 200 yards from the house. The good old days.

I starting hunting Ohio in 1973 because you could hunt grouse through Feb. and the limit was 3. I hunted there for grouse twice in the last few years and saw one. I remember getting 3 birds before 9 AM back in the 80's.

I hope I can get a least one flushed bird this afternoon.

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post #8 of 75 (permalink) Old 12-13-2011, 04:02 PM
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Re: Grouse in SWPA

This is just something, why is it that most PA hunters. Go by what they harvest/kill. This is the problem with The Deer hunters.. Hunters say there are No deer because they didnt get one. Well if you keep hunting the same area for the last 20 year or so. the habitat Changes. and So does the wildlife. you have to keep moving around with the habitat. This year i can say this, The Grouse number are down. i would say 1/2 from what they were last year. but you have to hunt the right Habitat to find them.
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Re: Grouse in SWPA

I'm from Butler county and run beagles. It's nothing for us to have 5 or 6 flushes per hunt. My one male will open on them. Actually last night I ran for an hour on my training grounds and he put up 2 birds. Every day that I rifle hunted I saw at least 3.

Last year in second season on the snow my male put 6 out of 1 pile. They are here, cover is what its all about in my opinion. If we are putting up grouse during a hunt, I know it'll hold rabbits and vice versa.
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Re: Grouse in SWPA

Hunt the right cover. That's crazy talk. Maybe scout new areas before the season. Poppy cock.

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