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post #1 of 41 (permalink) Old 04-18-2019, 02:48 PM Thread Starter
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Bob white quail webinar

I watched the 50 minute presentation, it was about the PGC's plans to reintroduce wild quail and how and where they are going to start, in fact they have already started to do some work on the first site which is Letterkenny Army Depot. It was interesting and informative. Everyone who watched the webinar is supposed to a copy attached to an e-mail. I will post the link when I receive it.

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post #2 of 41 (permalink) Old 04-18-2019, 04:50 PM
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Build the habitat and they will be fine. Just like the pheasants and grouse😜
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Thanks, I’ll watch it. I am excited that they may be restored.
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It would be very cool to have a huntable population of wild quail again. However, I believe that the effort will be similar to the wild pheasant program. There will be some where there is well groomed habitat, but very few to none outside of those areas. JMO.
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Another PGC restoration program. I wish they'd get started on the moose restoration program, I've always wanted to shoot a wild moose and they were native to Pennsylvania. Now that they have the ruffed grouse and pheasant populations restored let's get started on the moose. The success of the quail restoration is a given.
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As long as we have an abundance of cooper hawks and sharpshinned hawks, you will not be able to bring back quail. You have to address the predation problems, or it will be like the pheasant project. If the quail project fails they can always blame it on westnile, funny thing is even though west nile is proven to be hard on hawks, owls ,crows and bluejays, these predators seem to be able to do well number wise, with west nile, however everything they prey on has dropped in numbers. Just a few facts. Quail numbers are way down , in the south even with good habitat. To increase a game population, you must increase reproduction, and decrease mortality, and if your main mortality factor is predation, you must lower predator numbers. This is the way science works, the results of the pheasant restoration areas show how nature works when you provide the great habitat, but do not address the predation problem, which in the case of pheasants, was raptors causing the most mortality.
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A few years ago, a coworker watched the PGC stock 5 pheasants across the road from his house. Next morning he grabbed his gun and took a walk. Found 5 piles of feathers. Fox and owls got them all.
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A few years ago, a coworker watched the PGC stock 5 pheasants across the road from his house. Next morning he grabbed his gun and took a walk. Found 5 piles of feathers. Fox and owls got them all.
Just exactly does that have to do with starting a program to reintroduce bob white quail in PA?

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Just exactly does that have to do with starting a program to reintroduce bob white quail in PA?
Sorry, should of carried it out a little. I have nothing but owls, hawks and fox around here. Hardly ever see a rabbit, never see a pheasant, and how many Quail will survive the onslaught.
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Sorry, should of carried it out a little. I have nothing but owls, hawks and fox around here. Hardly ever see a rabbit, never see a pheasant, and how many Quail will survive the onslaught.
Yep, join the crowd, not just here in PA, people all over the country complain of low or decreasing small game numbers. As raptors increased in numbers, so did their impact on prey. Any animal, be it deer, bear, coyotes, if left completely uncontrolled will have an impact. Sadly its a federal law protecting the raptors, but I believe the states also have their protections on them. PA use to push for hunters and land owners to control raptors, because they thought they would lower game numbers. After the protection of raptors, the raptors increased in numbers and most everything they prey on dropped in numbers. Many people say that with good habitat, prey numbers will not be hurt by predation. I believe that the wolves out west proved, what an uncontrolled predator, can do to game numbers, with good habitat. One thing I have noticed and can not say its a fact, but raptors seem to have a more negative impact on feathered prey numbers. Could be owls are killing a lot of birds on the roost. As for the quail I believe it will be the small hawks that hold back the quail. Nothing else, we can always blame west nile.
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