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an end to pheasant hunting ?

could this happen in PA ? or other states that release birds................


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You have to consider where that happened! If PA ever becomes the leftist cesspool that Massachusetts is, I will be long gone before they ban pheasant hunting.

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You have to consider where that happened! If PA ever becomes the leftist cesspool that Massachusetts is, I will be long gone before they ban pheasant hunting.
You also have to consider where the pheasants pheasants were being released. I don't think it's too hard of an argument to make that stocking these birds on the National Seashore was or could do more harm to the ecosystem, particularly the delicate grass habitat of a Seashore. And according to the article the argument was made that the stocking went directly against the National Park Service's own policy regarding releasing non-native wildlife.

I don't think it's an issue for state land here in PA but I can certainly see this becoming an issue for stockings on the Delaware Water Gap National Recreation Area- which the NPS can curtail at anytime.
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If present trends continue, the same is going to happen in Pennsylvania.

It is a shame but it seems that the lesson learned from the wild pheasant reintroduction is that pheasants can reproduce in PA but only in areas intensively managed for them. Since there is no way to intensively manage for pheasant statewide, the only pheasant hunting that we can expect is stocked birds. If the State can't sell enough pheasant permits, the stocking program will be canceled. It was almost canceled before the pheasant permit was started.

I would love to see the return of wild pheasants but it seems a grassland bird is not going to thrive in our habitat. I hope quail can be brought back as a substitute. The farms feel awful barren when devoid of game birds.
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Anti hunting, anti gun , animal rights people will do anything to stop hunting. Liberals are out to get your hunting gun or your AR, they will try push their control, they see no reason for people to have guns. And any hunting they can stop, will result in less people using guns.
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Is there fat that could be cut from the Pheasant production side? A friend raises Pheasants under 5 acre of net. About 4 years ago he raised 15,000 birds with the aid of one young man. Wonder what is spent on the production end, by the state GC. Are there overseers Overseeing the overseers? Is this info available? Not the entire program cost, just the production cost.
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Is there fat that could be cut from the Pheasant production side? A friend raises Pheasants under 5 acre of net. About 4 years ago he raised 15,000 birds with the aid of one young man. Wonder what is spent on the production end, by the state GC. Are there overseers Overseeing the overseers? Is this info available? Not the entire program cost, just the production cost.
How much more fat do you want trimmed? They closed 2 of the 4 game farms and continue to raise 200,000+ pheasants at just 2 farms now and each farm is operated and maintained by a small crew. They also no longer keep "breeder birds" over the winter. Over the last several years they have made a concerted effort to cut costs as much as they can. They've trimmed a couple million dollars off the cost. I think they are operating as efficiently as possible and still provide a quality birds for pheasant hunters to enjoy.

15,000 birds on 5 acres? Curious, how healthy were they and how well did they fly?
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I think we are getting to the point where people are tired of fighting for hunting, gun ownership and self defense. When the time comes people will do what they want no matter what and we will have a much bigger issue going on.

Life should not be one fight right after another and this is at least what things have turned into since before I could remember.

Things are getting way out of hand and more and more people are disengaging and doing whatever they want.

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The "real" pheasant hunting ended quite a few years ago. I grew up hunting pheasants during the heyday during the 60s when long-tailed native birds were abundant. I know guys who have purchased dogs and got into pheasant hunting in the past couple years. Going to a game lands and "shooting" birds right after a stocking is not comparable to "hunting" wild birds and they will unfortunately never know the difference.
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The "real" pheasant hunting ended quite a few years ago. I grew up hunting pheasants during the heyday during the 60s when long-tailed native birds were abundant. I know guys who have purchased dogs and got into pheasant hunting in the past couple years. Going to a game lands and "shooting" birds right after a stocking is not comparable to "hunting" wild birds and they will unfortunately never know the difference.
I dont go on a stocking day and refuse to go on opening day. You are missing out if you are not hunting the rest of those days though. I go to ND every other year, and headed to MT this year and the birds that are not shot in PA within a day or two of stocking are good birds. We find some into late December and always find a few in January, sometimes find a bird or two in February. I've seen broods where I know there are no 'wild; pheasants.

After coming home from ND last time, found out one of the places we hunted they stocked birds (we only do public, we have never paid to hunt, if they want a dollar we move on). Not sure what you are looking for but there is a dirty little secret out west in that some of the birds that are shot are stocked.
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