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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-09-2018, 03:55 PM Thread Starter
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Iíve seen zero grouse

Let me first say, Iím not a grouse hunter anymore. But I am in the woods nearly every day, Sundayís included. I havenít seen or heard a single grouse this fall. I saw one on a state forest road back in August in northern Centre County. In the fall/winter of 2014-15, I saw 6. In 15-16, I saw 4. Last seaso, a total of 2. I think I see where this is going...

I hunt and trap in northern Butler, western Armstrong and in Clinton, Centre, and Clearlield Counties. Am I the only one , or are others seeing nothing?
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I have been seeing them in McKean, Elk and Cameron counties while deer hunting...........

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I've seen a few more in Elk County this year than I saw last year. Not a great increase but a few more. Don't know if it is just a coincidence or if there really are more this year though.

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I've seen some in Armstrong County this year where I haven't seen any in almost 20 years.
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West nile seems to be what they are blaming it on. Populations have been going down before west nile. Populations with grouse, pheasants and most small game numbers went down, when raptors were protected and rose in numbers. Saw a bat the other night around four thiry in the after noon. Was in a meadow with spruce trees around it, and watched a male coopers or sharpshinned hawk even try to catch it. Did not get it that time , maybe next time. The coopers and sharpshinned hawks are great bird eaters. In the spring they will one by one kill a whole brood of turkey poults, grouse and pheasant chicks. You are seeing the results of an uncontrolled whole classs of predators. As the Game Commision said if not controlled they will hurt small game numbers, they were right. We lost our limited grouse populations in the Adams county area back in the nineties, about when I saw the last wild pheasant. Grouse will probably be gone from the whole state in the next fifteen years. Not a good outlook. Funny thing is they blame west nile for the grouse losses, but west nile is known for sure to kill raptors, but yet the raptor numbers are doing well. If you take note to the pattern with predators be it coyotes, fisher, otter, raptors, bear, and others their numbers keep going up, despite all the disease and poor habitat claims. May it just that as predator numbers go up they have to eat more, pretty basic. I personally have seen more hawks while hunting this year than game.
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Hunted all of October up in Maine, Seemed to be more birds than last year but fewer hare.

Returned home and hunted about 5 times now in areas where I usually bump grouse when rabbit running. So far this year only one woodcock and two grouse and both of these grouse were on the road when I was leaving the gamelands. Waugh!

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Flushed none so far this year. In Monroe and Carbon county.
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I've seen about 20x more grouse than I have all other years combined. I don't hunt grouse but maybe I should! Flocks of 40 early in the spring this year and I can't walk in the woods without spooking some up any more. Last year I saw 5 and the year before that I saw 2.
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I've seen about 20x more grouse than I have all other years combined. I don't hunt grouse but maybe I should! Flocks of 40 early in the spring this year and I can't walk in the woods without spooking some up any more. Last year I saw 5 and the year before that I saw 2.

Flocks of 40? I want to hunt where you are.
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what the flock????
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