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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-10-2018, 06:16 PM Thread Starter
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Grouse Forecast

Has anyone seen a grouse forecast or anything for this year? I can only imagine with the rain that we've received this summer that the mosquitoes and WNV are going to be really really high.
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Has anyone seen a grouse forecast or anything for this year? I can only imagine with the rain that we've received this summer that the mosquitoes and WNV are going to be really really high.
No, not on the PGC site or the RGS site. Very disappointing. Disappointing to not even to see the RGS site have there usual state by state forecast.

And what do people think about the new style of the woodcock migration reporting map on the RGS site? I couldn't get it to come up correctly so that was disappointing too.
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What is a grouse? It has been so long since I have seen one I carry a picture to compare just in case I see a strange looking bird.
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post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-10-2018, 10:50 PM
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I will post some data from when I was doing annual wildlife survey routes. There was a laps after I retired until 2017 when we started doing them again. The routes are the same each year but the number of miles per year will vary because some years the routes are traveled more often. Each route was run at least once a week but during some years some or all of the routes were traveled two or even three times in a week. That is why the total mileage is relevant.


Grouse sightings:


Year.....miles traveled....# of grouse seen....miles/grouse

2002.....289.6....17... 17.04

2003.....299.8.....3... .99.93

2004.....289.6.....0.... ..0 per 289.6 miles

2005.....323.4.....7... .46.20

2006.....447.1....28.... .15.97

2007.....476.9.....5.... ..95.38

2008.....508.2.....19... .26.75

2009.....501.2.....22.... ..22.78

2010.....323.3.....13... .24.87

2011.....358.4.....23... .15.58

2017.....494.9....0.... .0 per 494.9 miles

2018.....456.3....1.... .456.30


As you can see there were always years when grouse numbers were pretty high and also pretty low. But it seems that the last two years were the worst two years of the survey years. That one grouse we saw during this years survey period (six weeks between August 1 and September 15) is the only one I have seen all summer and fall. That is very poor sighting results as I have put thousands of other miles over back roads this summer and fall. This was an extremely wet summer and I'm sure that had an impact on both grouse and turkey poults this summer.


Hopefully we will see some recovery in the future but I do think there is reason for concern as it relates to the future for grouse.


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I never saw the many grouse in one day only saw two shot them and went home. LOL.

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post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-11-2018, 09:21 AM
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Here is one from yesterday that paid me a visit while I was taking a break. It walked up to the back tire of my truck, making putting sounds. It seemed irritated that I was there.
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I will post some data from when I was doing annual wildlife survey routes. There was a laps after I retired until 2017 when we started doing them again. The routes are the same each year but the number of miles per year will vary because some years the routes are traveled more often. Each route was run at least once a week but during some years some or all of the routes were traveled two or even three times in a week. That is why the total mileage is relevant.


Grouse sightings:


Year.....miles traveled....# of grouse seen....miles/grouse

2002.....289.6....17... 17.04

2003.....299.8.....3... .99.93

2004.....289.6.....0.... ..0 per 289.6 miles

2005.....323.4.....7... .46.20

2006.....447.1....28.... .15.97

2007.....476.9.....5.... ..95.38

2008.....508.2.....19... .26.75

2009.....501.2.....22.... ..22.78

2010.....323.3.....13... .24.87

2011.....358.4.....23... .15.58

2017.....494.9....0.... .0 per 494.9 miles

2018.....456.3....1.... .456.30


As you can see there were always years when grouse numbers were pretty high and also pretty low. But it seems that the last two years were the worst two years of the survey years. That one grouse we saw during this years survey period (six weeks between August 1 and September 15) is the only one I have seen all summer and fall. That is very poor sighting results as I have put thousands of other miles over back roads this summer and fall. This was an extremely wet summer and I'm sure that had an impact on both grouse and turkey poults this summer.


Hopefully we will see some recovery in the future but I do think there is reason for concern as it relates to the future for grouse.


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Im concerned that grouse have been exterpiated from many areas, and it will be very hard for them to ever repopulate in some cases. In Butler County, growing up in the 60s, grouse could be found in nearly every wooded area. Not in the numbers that the northern tier had, but they could be found and hunted. Today, I doubt that many townships in county hold any grouse at all.
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Butler was one of the Counties that produced a lot of grouse in the 70 and 80's as we took a lot of Grouse at Moraine State Park, North Washington, Hooker, Boyer and North Washington areas.

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The PGC did a big study on Grouse and posted it on their web pages with a video some time ago, it was really interesting. I think there is also some 50 or so other birds affected by the mosquitoes and WNV, Turkeys and Pheasants are not affected according to that study.
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Here is one from yesterday that paid me a visit while I was taking a break. It walked up to the back tire of my truck, making putting sounds. It seemed irritated that I was there.
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