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PAGC Managed Dove Fields??

A friend has asked me to post here regarding the PGC's "Managed Dove Fields". He tried the one near Prince Gallitzin and saw no doves. He said the only attempt at management he saw was a crop of 3-foot high Foxtail grass. Has anyone visited one of these areas and what did you see in the way of doves and management? Thank you.
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A friend has asked me to post here regarding the PGC's "Managed Dove Fields". He tried the one near Prince Gallitzin and saw no doves. He said the only attempt at management he saw was a crop of 3-foot high Foxtail grass. Has anyone visited one of these areas and what did you see in the way of doves and management? Thank you.
Actually here on the Beltzville Wildlife Management property the PGC planted like 3-4ft strips of sorghum in any number of fields and then tilled up wide strips of dirt on either side. Then the first week of the season they mowed the sorghum and let it lay.

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Actually here on the Beltzville Wildlife Management property the PGC planted like 3-4ft strips of sorghum in any number of fields and then tilled up wide strips of dirt on either side. Then the first week of the season they mowed the sorghum and let it lay.


Any doves using it?
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Find some public land that borders private cut over fields and you have the best of both worlds.
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Any doves using it?
Yeah there are always doves around but never seen them in great number there. Part of the problem I think is that it's a big area with enough good spots that doves like(including neighboring tracts of private crop and Christmas tree farms that they just don't concentrate on one spot as much as they might in other places.

I can tell you that when I'm running the dogs I haven't seen doves working these strips really at all.

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In the area, I live doves have been a no-show for about 30 years now. My friend lives nearby. It has always been my impression that about the time all of the remnants of strip mining were reclaimed, with their shale beds littered with goldenrod, foxtail and numerous water puddles, the dove around here vanished. Most of the crops in this area are soybean and corn which but for the foxtail in the corn dove have little use for. I suppose the PGC's foxtail and sorghum will provide some feed for the pheasants they stock but doves need open ground to land on or sparse weeds so they can see predators, close water and grit. Three-foot standing foxtail grass is silly.

Thank you for the interest and replies.
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I went to 2 in mercer/lawrence county. Whatever was being 'managed' didn't amount to enough for me to notice. They tilled one field maybe a month ago. Did nothing of value. Never saw doves (a dove). Patrolled around Pymatuming. Almost the same. Killed 1 that happened into me. Bought a dove decoy tree and a mojo dove in anticipation. total waste.
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As someone who used to try and manage a few small private spots for dove, I can say it's tough. My experience is that you can only get at most 3 good hunts(with declining results on each successive hunt) out of a spot before they get spooked. We would hunt only about 45 minutes to an hour and get out. That still didn't help. One spot that didn't get managed at all got pounded opening day. That was basically all the shooting you could get out of that spot. The birds aren't dumb. When they get shot at they move somewhere they aren't. I give the PGC kudos for trying to provide opportunities, but it's tough to "create" a dove field that will benefit hunters for an entire season.

If I wouldn't get arrested I'd hunt on my roof. Could probably manage a limit with all the birds zipping around to the neighbors feeders.
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Yeah, every day I have about a dozen or so doves along my gravel lane or on the powerline.

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