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12ga LOW BRASS LOADs - Is it enough for pheasant??

This might fall into the Too Stupid to ask Question category....but I don't know so I'm asking.
<span style="font-weight: bold">So does anybody ONLY use low brass loads for pheasant hunting?
If you do, what load do you use?????</span>

Here's why I was wanting to know.....When hunting pheasant up to this point in my life, I have always used high brass in either a 20 or 12 gauge. There was never "a reason" to use low brass load.... I prefer Remington's Express Long Range in #5 for pheasant hunting right now.

Well, this year I do want to hunt with a "new to me" family heirloom, a 1914 Ithaca double barrel. It is a 12 gauge with 2¾" chamber, and I think it would be great for my father-in-law to see some videos of his dad's gun back in action. <span style="font-weight: bold">I have had it to the gun range twice now, and only have been shooting low brass at clay pigeons.</span> While no problem on clay pigeons, I am questioning is a low brass load enough for pheasant knock down power. I do not want to risk high brass in the 100 year old gun.

Load numbers I am comparing:
3¾DR.EQ - 1¼oz shot #5 (high brass)
3¼DR.EQ - 1oz shot #7½ (low brass)
The reason I want to stick with the low brass is some information I received from another website forum about shotguns and ammo in that 1914 time period. The most powerful load was 3¼ dr.eq. <span style="font-style: italic">Ithaca catalogs of the period don't mention chamber lengths. At the time your gun was made our North American ammunition manufacturers offered 12-gauge shells in a staggering variety of loads and shell lengths. Generally speaking 1 and 1 1/8 ounce loads were available in the 2 5/8 inch cases, but one had to go to the 2 3/4 inch or longer shells to get the 1 1/4 ounce loads. <span style="font-weight: bold">The heaviest 12-gauge smokeless powder loads our manufacturers offered in 1914 were 3 1/2 drams of bulk smokeless powder pushing that 1 1/4 ounce of shot</span> </span>

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Re: 12ga LOW BRASS LOADs - Is it enough for pheasant??

Maybe ask in the firearm section? I am sure they are going to recommend you take it to a gunsmith. But I do not know what you can check yourself. Congrats on getting pap's gun back in action!

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Re: 12ga LOW BRASS LOADs - Is it enough for pheasant??

It's plenty. I reload, so it's hard to give you an equivalence, but I load similar to AA Super Handicap target loads and I've shot dozens of pheasants with 7.5 almost exclusively. Same goes for my 28ga. A ton of birds shot with 7.5, 3/4oz loads.

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Re: 12ga LOW BRASS LOADs - Is it enough for pheasant??

I don't use a 12ga much for pheasants anymore. I use the Herters shells from Cabelas in my 16ga and 20ga guns. They are both 2 3/4 low brass with one ounce of #5 or #6 shot. I have not had a problem with crippling or loosing birds. If it were me I would use the Ithica.
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Re: 12ga LOW BRASS LOADs - Is it enough for pheasant??

I probably wrote too much info to start with....

To be clear, I have already had the double barrel to the range, I have shot 2 boxes of "low brass" loads without any problems ... the question isn't whether the old gun is worthy or not, I have proved that already, <span style="font-weight: bold">just looking for answers to when hunting pheasants, what LOW BRASS loads do people like/use (if they use low brass at all).</span>

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Re: 12ga LOW BRASS LOADs - Is it enough for pheasant??

Sorry I read into it wrong. I would guess 90% of the pheasants we have killed were with low brass. #5s

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I hunt pheasant with low brass 6 shot loads. More than sufficient.

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Re: 12ga LOW BRASS LOADs - Is it enough for pheasant??

low brass 12's are plenty. I 've killed plenty with the off the shelf on sale loads of 1 oz of 6's or 7&1/2's. If cash isn't tight ( but how many do u shoot) I prefer the 1&1/8 oz. Win AA target loads. in my 20 I shoot the AA in the sporting clay 7/8oz or heavy target 1oz. in 7&1/2. they fall like they are crushed.

Headed back to PA in a few weeks to work my new Boykin Spaniel pup on some upland birds. Will chase Grouse, public land pheasants, & some shooting preserve pheasants to get the dog some work. 20ga with AA 7&1/2s for em all ( I may change chokes on the grouse)
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I shoot low brass 6's and 7.5's out of my 20 gauge. No problem.

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I would buy a box of low brass remington game loads with 6 shot for pheasants instead of using the 7.5
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