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Is 1 oz of 7.5 too much for grouse and woodies.

I have been in grouse mode the last few weeks something fierce once dove came in. I have been looking at different ammo and such. I checked out some 20 gage loads yesterday but the price about shocked me. I saw federal high brass shells that have 1 oz of 7.5 shot. I went to pick them up but they are 19.95 a box. seems a little high to me, so I put them back. The cheaper "estate" shells were 14.95.

Stop by wally world this morning and the Winchester AA shells in 7/8 oz of 7.5 were $7.97 a box. The box says a velocity of 1300 fps. I think I am going to pick up a box of these and see how they perform. on the pattern paper. I am thinking that by going with a skeet and improved cylinder choke, and 1 oz of 7.5 I would get the best pattern I could for grouse hunting, and offer the most shot without going to a smaller shot like 8.

Am I wrong in my thinking?

Any ammo suggestions, and things of that nature would be appreciated. It is just hard for me to fathom spending 20 dollars for a box of shells for grouse hunting. All this coming from a guy who spends 6.50 per shell on his turkey ammo. The thing is I am not the best shotgun shot, and imagine most of the shots I am going to take this year will end up empty handed. Is that extra 1/8 oz of shot really worth double the price of a box of ammo. Nearly triple?

What are you guys shooting?

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Re: Is 1 oz of 7.5 too much for grouse and woodies.

No you are not wrong. I have used the same or a similar load for many years.

BTW if you are near a Wal-Mart they have a sale on Federal ammo. The same load is selling for $19.95 for a 4 pack. I use the stuff and it is a great deal. It costs me about the same to reload 4 boxes.
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Re: Is 1 oz of 7.5 too much for grouse and woodies.

BTW my grouse gun is choked skeet and skeet. Most shots are close.
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Re: Is 1 oz of 7.5 too much for grouse and woodies.

I am really thinking that I may try those AA's as well. Hearing a lot of great things about them on another forum I belong to. I think they still come with a 2.00 mail in rebate as well. So it would only be 5.97 or so for a box of them. they are 7/8 oz though.

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Re: Is 1 oz of 7.5 too much for grouse and woodies.

Winchester AAs are great rounds. Try them both.

Try this to see how they perform. Figure out what the usual yardage you would shoot at a grouse. I'd go with 20 to 25 yards. Draw a grouse on a couple of different sheets of paper and place them at you chosen yardage. Shoot at them with each type of round and choke. Look at the patterns on the paper. This will show you how your choke is performing and give you an idea how the loads perform with your particular choke.

I look for even patterns. Five to seven pellets hits in the vital areas will suffice and will bring down a grouse.
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Re: Is 1 oz of 7.5 too much for grouse and woodies.

im used to looking at turkey patterns of 260+ in a 10" cirle at 40 yards with my 12. This should be interesting . WIll put up pics with how I make out. Thanks.

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Re: Is 1 oz of 7.5 too much for grouse and woodies.

Those 7/8 ounce AA Super Sport target loads in 7.5's are plenty of fire power for grouse and woodcock. I shoot those in my 20ga. and the same shell, although 3/4 ounce, in my 28 ga. with good success.
If you shop around you'll also find that Olin offers a 20 ga. AA target load with 1 ounce of 7.5's, in case you feel you need that extra 1/8 ounce of shot.
Any of these loads will work effectively for grouse and woodcock and at the same time be less expensive than traditional 'hunting loads.'
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Re: Is 1 oz of 7.5 too much for grouse and woodies.

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im used to looking at turkey patterns of 260+ in a 10" cirle at 40 yards with my 12.
That won't leave much grouse to eat.
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Re: Is 1 oz of 7.5 too much for grouse and woodies.

Yes I agree

I might have to let him get to the downward glide before squeezing off a crack at him with my 12 ga

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Re: Is 1 oz of 7.5 too much for grouse and woodies.

A lot depends on the type of cover you will be shooting in. My grouse hunting is all done in fairly heavy wooded areas with the birds kicking up very close (no shocker there) so I typically use hunting loads of #6 with a cylinder choke - 20 gage. I have, in the past, used shot as large a #5 for grouse and pheasant. It don't take many BBs of 5 or 6 from a hunting load to down a bird and the damage to meat is kept at a minimum.

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