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post #11 of 32 (permalink) Old 05-22-2019, 02:53 PM
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The last three years the Game Commission has had the public involved in submitting turkey sightings during the month of August. The poult sightings have declined each of the past two years.

Year...………….Poult sightings
2016...…………..16,740
2017...…………..10,720
2018...…………….5,565

Based on that we should be seeing fewer jakes in most areas. The decline is probably a combination of factors. There is no question that the cold wet springs have been a factor. They are also doing the research right now to see if west nile is having an adverse affect on turkey poults as it is with grouse.

One thing is certain though and that is that something negative is going on with turkey populations. The turkey sightings declined in every WMU from 2016 - 2018. Hopefully, this downward trend can be reversed in the future.

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post #12 of 32 (permalink) Old 05-22-2019, 03:28 PM
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Oddly enough, same here in 3b and 4c.
And not just jakes....many fewer birds overall.....gobblers, hens, and jakes.
Last year I stopped counting unique jakes somewhere around 20. One group had 7.
I expected a bumper crop of 2yr old longbeards and it just wasn't the case
The one farm that had 9 Jakes that I saw (one group of 7 and a pair on the same morning) translated to 1 longbeard this year and he is in my freezer.
No idea where they all disappeared to.

This year I've seen a grand total 3 Jake's in 3 weeks and a lot of woods time.
I'm afraid last year's wet spring took its toll?....and this year feels worse.

I just can't figure why the lack of longbeards this season after last year's sightings.

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My first 3 birds I called in this yr were jakes lotta jakes out there where I hunt.

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Out here in the Midwest, I’m also seeing exceedingly few Jakes. Didn’t see even one while hunting any of the 4 states in my block (Nebraska, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri) and only saw one Jake flock on the trail cams on my MO farm in late winter.
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The last three years the Game Commission has had the public involved in submitting turkey sightings during the month of August. The poult sightings have declined each of the past two years.

Year...………….Poult sightings
2016...…………..16,740
2017...…………..10,720
2018...…………….5,565

Based on that we should be seeing fewer jakes in most areas. The decline is probably a combination of factors. There is no question that the cold wet springs have been a factor. They are also doing the research right now to see if west nile is having an adverse affect on turkey poults as it is with grouse.

One thing is certain though and that is that something negative is going on with turkey populations. The turkey sightings declined in every WMU from 2016 - 2018. Hopefully, this downward trend can be reversed in the future.

Dick Bodenhorn
Yes it will be interesting to see what happens in the next couple of years and what the outcome of the research will be. Perhaps a combination of both? I guess time will tell.

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I saw a group of two, then three on second Monday. Saw 3 second Wednesday. My son killed one on May 11 and I saw one more Jake third week. I definitely saw more longbeards than Jakes but there will be a few two year olds around here next year.
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Hunted dang near every day, only seen two jakes. Which will make for an interesting spring in 2020.

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Fewer birds this season. We did call in several Jakes tho, maybe 20ish. 6 in one group. Sure hope this years stock of poults fares well.

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The last three years the Game Commission has had the public involved in submitting turkey sightings during the month of August. The poult sightings have declined each of the past two years.

Year...………….Poult sightings
2016...…………..16,740
2017...…………..10,720
2018...…………….5,565

Based on that we should be seeing fewer jakes in most areas. The decline is probably a combination of factors. There is no question that the cold wet springs have been a factor. They are also doing the research right now to see if west nile is having an adverse affect on turkey poults as it is with grouse.

One thing is certain though and that is that something negative is going on with turkey populations. The turkey sightings declined in every WMU from 2016 - 2018. Hopefully, this downward trend can be reversed in the future.

Dick Bodenhorn
Something negative is absolutely going on!! I've only had one small Jake show up silently 2nd week of season!! Was actually estatic yesterday when I saw a real living hen walking in my field in the evening!! Years ago every morning/evening I would have multiple turkeys in my field!! They were there so much when I brush hogged the field they would just move out of way and not even be scared! Right now it's not looking good for the future if we stay on this trend! Specially with the scare of west nile virus being a culprit for our massive Turkey population decline. We can combat predators and wet springs during nest season has always played a factor but were able to bounce back following spring with good nesting conditions. But how do we control a disease that has been foreign to our area and turkeys dont have immunity to it! Wish we could catch every turkey and inoculate them but that's not possible! So were do we go from here!?!?!?!

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Hunted dang near every day, only seen two jakes. Which will make for an interesting spring in 2020.
Yep. You just hit on my biggest fear going into next year.
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