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I really like this ammo choke combination. Shooting the 3.5 inch 2 oz #6 loads with the Carlsons Longbeard XR Choke tube. I couldn't find the magnum 2 1/8 oz loads, but I'm satisfied with this.
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I love the stuff. In fact, that’s the exact load I used through a Super Black Eagle 3 with a Primos Jellyhead choke this morning (same Iowa hunt with a wing bone call that I just posted about). Even in #6, it absolutely knocks them flat at surprising ranges because of how well it patterns.
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I love the stuff. In fact, that’s the exact load I used through a Super Black Eagle 3 with a Primos Jellyhead choke this morning (same Iowa hunt with a wing bone call that I just posted about). Even in #6, it absolutely knocks them flat at surprising ranges because of how well it patterns.
I hear the TSS with #9 shot are incredible. I just can't justify spending that much on ammo. Happy with the Longbeards.
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Same here. I have heard nothing but great things about the TSS shells, but it's hard to justify the extra cost when the Long Beards have been utterly reliable at all ranges I've used them. My longest kill with the Long Beard #6 you posted about is 52 yards. That was on a 2nd bird standing further out than my initial kill during last year's Nebraska opener. That load first dropped one bird hard just past 30 yards. Then I decided to burn my second tag when the other bird lollygagged after the first shot, hanging out at 52 yards. He went down without a whimper.
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I'm shooting 3"longbeard #5's out of a mossberg 835, hevi shot .676 choke, and just put a simmons pro diamond scope. I just patterned it on Sunday and honestly I'm sure with this combo I could kill turkeys out to 60yds plus. Plan on trying to keep shots at 50yds or less though
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I'm shooting 3"longbeard #5's out of a mossberg 835, hevi shot .676 choke, and just put a simmons pro diamond scope. I just patterned it on Sunday and honestly I'm sure with this combo I could kill turkeys out to 60yds plus. Plan on trying to keep shots at 50yds or less though
With #5's and a good pattern, I have no doubt that you could kill a bird at 60 yard with that combination, but keeping it to 50 yards and in is definitely smart planning.
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I'm shooting 3"longbeard #5's out of a mossberg 835, hevi shot .676 choke, and just put a simmons pro diamond scope. I just patterned it on Sunday and honestly I'm sure with this combo I could kill turkeys out to 60yds plus. Plan on trying to keep shots at 50yds or less though
What's your 50 yard pattern look like?

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Don't have a pic of the target but had 27 pellets in the head and neck
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I'm shooting 3"longbeard #5's out of a mossberg 835, hevi shot .676 choke, and just put a simmons pro diamond scope. I just patterned it on Sunday and honestly I'm sure with this combo I could kill turkeys out to 60yds plus. Plan on trying to keep shots at 50yds or less though

I'm wondering at what point (yardage) does a #5 lead pellet run out of the energy required to break a turkey's spine?

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"To quickly take a turkey, I want a gel penetration of right at an inch and three quarters or so minimum. Some pellets will blow through, many won't, for a turkey's head and neck are a lot more variable than our ballistic gelatin can be. One and three quarters inches is adequate to do the job."



We can debate whether 1&3/4 inches of gel penetration is correct but the fact remains this is what most people feel is required to make an ethical and clean kill. According to the chart a #5 lead pellet runs out of enough energy to kill a turkey at about 45 yards. Doesn't matter if you can get a decent pattern after that distance.
Now a #4 lead pellet is much better at longer distantces, maybe out to 50 yards.
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