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Do you prefer hunting or killing?

Sounds like a stupid question. We all want to fill a tag. But here is what I am getting at.

So far this season, I took a hunt-cation to Hawaii and a 3 day weekend to AL. In HI I juggled family activities with hunting public land on the slopes of the Mauna Kea volcano. Had a handful of close calls but finally sealed the deal on day 4. Also just came back from my annual 3 day weekend in northern mountains of Alabama. Twice had one inside gun range. The first one hung up just on the other side of a little finger ridge, even though I had called his 4 hens into my lap. The second one came in silent and busted me. Did not fill a tag. These examples are what I refer to as hunting.

On the other hand, I also live in a semi rural community. Know of 8-10 roosting sites that have been regularly used for the past 25 years. Been sitting against the same trees all that time. Sneak in before dark, sit down, wait until flydown, make a call or two and have a good chance of one showing his face within 15 minutes. That's what I refer to as killing.

I heard this expression many years ago.... All dead turkeys look the same. It's the hunt that sets one apart from the other.

Any more, I get more enjoyment out of playing the game than killing. Maybe it's because I'm getting old and don't have many more close encounters in the bank or the will soon not be able to hump it up and down the mountains.

Don't get me wrong, to each his own. But I'd rather fool with one and not kill him, than to shoot one off the roost and go home.
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Sounds like a stupid question. We all want to fill a tag. But here is what I am getting at.

So far this season, I took a hunt-cation to Hawaii and a 3 day weekend to AL. In HI I juggled family activities with hunting public land on the slopes of the Mauna Kea volcano. Had a handful of close calls but finally sealed the deal on day 4. Also just came back from my annual 3 day weekend in northern mountains of Alabama. Twice had one inside gun range. The first one hung up just on the other side of a little finger ridge, even though I had called his 4 hens into my lap. The second one came in silent and busted me. Did not fill a tag. These examples are what I refer to as hunting.

On the other hand, I also live in a semi rural community. Know of 8-10 roosting sites that have been regularly used for the past 25 years. Been sitting against the same trees all that time. Sneak in before dark, sit down, wait until flydown, make a call or two and have a good chance of one showing his face within 15 minutes. That's what I refer to as killing.

I heard this expression many years ago.... All dead turkeys look the same. It's the hunt that sets one apart from the other.

Any more, I get more enjoyment out of playing the game than killing. Maybe it's because I'm getting old and don't have many more close encounters in the bank or the will soon not be able to hump it up and down the mountains.

Don't get me wrong, to each his own. But I'd rather fool with one and not kill him, than to shoot one off the roost and go home.
I still love shooting big longbeards but what I love more now is calling one in for someone else to shoot. If I am by myself I put way to much pressure on myself to kill that bird. It actually hurts my brain trying to figure out a turkey I cant kill the first time I hunt him. Those turkeys I hunt more just to try to kill them and many times I never did kill the turkey that would not come in. Now I really like taking someone out, sitting back and do the calling. No pressure on me either way. I swear I have more enjoyment watching other people kill gobblers I called in than me killing one.
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I agree. In some ways we are forced to call in turkeys for other people just to become a better turkey hunter. That’s what you get when the state limit you to one or maybe two tags.
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Just how many tags would it take to make you happy? 5, 6, 10? You have the opportunity to take 3 turkeys in PA, if that isn't enough, there are other states. I swear, the more Pennsylvanians get them more they want.
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I'm way more content to sit back and watch it all unfold in front of someone else.
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I do almost 100% of my Spring Gobbler hunting alone as I do not hunt fall turkeys even when they walk under my archery tree stand in turkey season. I do totally enjoy the finding, the calling, hearing responses from the gobblers and hens as well and luring a mature gobbler into easy gun range.

I have never and never will shoot a turkey out of a tree, from the road, over a dog or with a rifle not even if I though it was the grand champaign of gobblers. The thrill to me is believing I outsmarted him in his own environment where he was most of the advantages.

If he don't come in that day...there is most always another day or year. If I lose to his wit which is often, I will change my tactics next trip or later in the morning. I hunt hard and put all my effort in harvesting a mature gobbler each and ever trip, but there is more to hunting than just bringing home game. I take pride in just knowing I gave it my best effort win or lose.

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Just how many tags would it take to make you happy? 5, 6, 10? You have the opportunity to take 3 turkeys in PA, if that isn't enough, there are other states. I swear, the more Pennsylvanians get them more they want.
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You did. " Thatís what you get when the state limit you to one or maybe two tags".
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Sounds like a stupid question. We all want to fill a tag. But here is what I am getting at.

So far this season, I took a hunt-cation to Hawaii and a 3 day weekend to AL. In HI I juggled family activities with hunting public land on the slopes of the Mauna Kea volcano. Had a handful of close calls but finally sealed the deal on day 4. Also just came back from my annual 3 day weekend in northern mountains of Alabama. Twice had one inside gun range. The first one hung up just on the other side of a little finger ridge, even though I had called his 4 hens into my lap. The second one came in silent and busted me. Did not fill a tag. These examples are what I refer to as hunting.

On the other hand, I also live in a semi rural community. Know of 8-10 roosting sites that have been regularly used for the past 25 years. Been sitting against the same trees all that time. Sneak in before dark, sit down, wait until flydown, make a call or two and have a good chance of one showing his face within 15 minutes. That's what I refer to as killing.

I heard this expression many years ago.... All dead turkeys look the same. It's the hunt that sets one apart from the other.

Any more, I get more enjoyment out of playing the game than killing. Maybe it's because I'm getting old and don't have many more close encounters in the bank or the will soon not be able to hump it up and down the mountains.

Don't get me wrong, to each his own. But I'd rather fool with one and not kill him, than to shoot one off the roost and go home.

X, if you hunt, you kill...pretty simple in my mind. Listen, you could replace your shotgun for a camera...ya know...problem solved!
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I heard this expression many years ago.... All dead turkeys look the same. It's the hunt that sets one apart from the other.

I agree with that. The hunt is what memories are made of, long after the kill or not or whether it's me or someone else pulling the trigger.


That being said, I'm not against the easy, quick kills because there will be enough of the tough ones to bring you back to reality.


That made me think of another expression I just heard recently from an old turkey slayer...... "It's all about the HUNT..... the KILL just means you WON!!"
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