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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 03-10-2012, 12:25 AM Thread Starter
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White-Tail Deer Industry?

So QDMA just started to speak out against the captive Deer industry. This is something that i do not agree with. In fact it will more then likely be the sole reason i do not renew my membership. I feel that the deer industry is a good thing a very very good thing. I see no difference between raising deer and cattle. I was just wondering what some other peoples opinions are on the matter, do you feel it is wrong to have a captive deer breeding programs in our state if so why? Keep in mind im not talking about preserve hunting in this post just raising White-tails.

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post #2 of 32 (permalink) Old 03-10-2012, 12:36 AM
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Re: White-Tail Deer Industry?

The purpose of captive deer breeding is to supply the preserve shooting industry. They are not mutually exclusive as you suggest.
You say captive deer breeding is "very good". Why?
I am not opposed to it as an agricultural industry. It is not hunting and the deer are not wildlife. My problems with it are the spreading of disease, and the the fact that the preserve hunting is not differentiated from real hunting by so many people..

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Re: White-Tail Deer Industry?

There are many deer farmers who simple raise deer for a hobby, I know at least two people to whom this applies. They sell no deer to hunting perserves. And still there are others who do it for meat(Agricultre). Still other bottle urine that many deer hunters use during the season. Also how do you think many other product are tested and developed such as food plot seed. Captive deer herds are also regularly checked by state officals for all know diseases naturally occurring. Coulds anyone tell me the last time the PGC checked there entire herd for disease. And Yes I agree often times perserve hunting gives hunters a bad rap. when they think about preserves the see lots of deer in a tiny pen with people just picking aimming and shooting. however that is just people being ignorant. Many perserves are that way but that is what their clients want. who are any of us to tell them to stop giving their clients what they want. If you were to ask me if i wanted to shoot a 160+ class deer in a fifty acre pen i would say no thank you. But what if it was a 1500 acre pen that is managed to hold more naturally ocuring wildlife (flura and Funa) then most of our subpar managed gamelands. And had its own natural bredding carefully managed deer population within i would see no problem with it.

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Re: White-Tail Deer Industry?

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Captive deer herds are also regularly checked by state officals for all know diseases naturally occurring.
I was under the impression that live deer cannot be tested for Chronic Wasting Disease. Has that changed?

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Re: White-Tail Deer Industry?

DIYA- your right it is currently impracticble. they are just getting to the point of being able to diagnose it in live animals. Still experimental. They all hope to get a test to pick it up in urine.
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Re: White-Tail Deer Industry?

http://www.qdma.com/media-room/deer-...islation-2012/

Is this the issue?
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Re: White-Tail Deer Industry?

There is nothing wrong with science. The question is whether every advance is seen as effective or wanted.
Decades ago I use to hunt a farmer's land. I would ask him how he fed the cattle, how large his herd would be and questions that someone would consider if one were in a business. Even then he had no bull and was using artificial insemination.

Of course, the practical problem with hunting might come when the greatest antlers in any state will be found, not on open land, but in the fenced preserves scientifically administered. Deer may move from a hunted prey to scientific accomplishment. And what will become of the hunter. Not what became of the deer.
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Of course, the practical problem with hunting might come when the greatest antlers in any state will be found, not on open land, but in the fenced preserves scientifically administered.
We're already there. I don't see that as a problem. The problem will be when those antlers in fenced preserves are pursued by most hunters.

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Re: White-Tail Deer Industry?

Remember the old Chiffon margarine commercials? It's not nice to fool Mother Nature....

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Re: White-Tail Deer Industry?

Just what does the QDMA exspect to do that the AG isn't doing?
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