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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 12-15-2011, 04:31 PM Thread Starter
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Will WMU 3A change for 2012

As you look at the PGC map for the areas that did not have concurrent antler/antlerless gun seasons the first 5 days, 3A was surrounded.

Based on what you've seen in 3A- do you guys that have hunted up here think we need to go to non-concurrent days as well?

Personally--I think we need to go to it for a few years. My sightings of antlerless were way down this year, in both archery and gun seasons.

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Re: Will WMU 3A change for 2012

Honestly I don't think it'll make much difference. Many hunters take their does in archery and early muzzle loader season. And if you have a DMAP tag you can hunt does the whole two weeks anyways in these zones.
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3A is mostly private land, it will not change. It's surrounded by public land wmu's.
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Re: Will WMU 3A change for 2012

Deer numbers are fair to good in the areas of 3A that I've hunted in for the past 50+ years (NW Tioga/NE Potter).

Don't see any pressing reason to mess it up, by dropping first week concurrency. Biggest issue I see affecting deer sightings, is the major decrease in hunting pressure during firearms seasons. Most now sit and wait, very few hunters actually moving deer, let alone many drives taking place.

Otherwise, I wouldn't still be seeing lots of deer out feeding evenings in late summer/early fall, as opposed to the fewer numbers seen during firearms seasons.

The deer are there. Hardly anyone is causing them to move much these days, come the seasons.

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Re: Will WMU 3A change for 2012

I would like to see certain large game lands in 3A managed differently. I'd like to see that statewide, but thats just me. In the case of public lands in units with high tag allocations, I think it is time for the PGC to begin to think outside the box. I have seen no such movement towards a system like they have in the south, so, I'm goiing to assume that Elmerton is ok with their status quo. Like always.

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Re: Will WMU 3A change for 2012

In my opinion it should change to mirror what is happening in surrounding WMUs. During the first 3 days of buck season all I saw were bucks, 4 in total, one legal.
During the last 3 days I saw 5 doe and 1 legal buck. 6 all day hunts and I see the same number of bucks as doe? In 25 years of hunting 3A, I don't remember the numbers being this equal.
I know this is a small sample size, but this seems to be the way the numbers have been heading the past few years.
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1 to 1 buck to doe ratio is as good as it gets.
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1 to 1 buck to doe ratio is as good as it gets.
This is true.



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And I was bear hunting the first day of buck season in 3A on state forest land and saw 17 doe and no buck. How's that buck to doe ratio?

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Re: Will WMU 3A change for 2012

I agree with the 1 : 1 ratio but it seems the habitat can handle more deer.
10 total deer in 6 full days of hunting?
I know we won't / shouldn't see numbers like 80's and 90's but it seems as though there should be more deer.
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