Up to September 2nd all the buck I saw were still in velvet. On September 2nd I saw three bucks and all were still in velvet.
On September 3rd I saw my first buck out of velvet. Of the seven bucks I saw while doing the wildlife survey routes after September 2nd all were out of velvet.
I pulled a camera card in Ohio yesterday and had a bachelor group still in velvet on the 6th, and zero pictures of the group after that. I suspect they have all rubbed and gone their separates ways and probably won't get many more pictures. I did get a picture of a coyote with about a 12 pound opossum in his mouth.
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