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Old 04-30-2019, 05:49 PM Thread Starter
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Saturday Opener

https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2019/...20/3630813002/

The PGC is giving you guys a second chance to tell them how bad a Saturday opener will be.

Good luck, Tony
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Old 04-30-2019, 05:53 PM
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https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2019/...20/3630813002/

The PGC is giving you guys a second chance to tell them how bad a Saturday opener will be.

Good luck, Tony
In 2020. The PGC evaluates the seasons dates/length every year so it is not really a surprise.

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Old 04-30-2019, 06:04 PM Thread Starter
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In 2020. The PGC evaluates the seasons dates/length every year so it is not really a surprise.
Im not surprised. I am just passing on the information.

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Old 04-30-2019, 06:07 PM
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Yep....PGC's still annually getting gripes about the Saturday Bear Opener! Ever hear of the term: "Carved in stone"?? lol

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Yep....PGC's still annually getting gripes about the Saturday Bear Opener! Ever hear of the term: "Carved in stone"?? lol
Bear season is one thing, even though Saturday opener is a big mistake, but deer season is a whole new game.

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I've been expecting this. The Board of Commissioners responded this year to pressure from a leading member of the Senate who wanted the Saturday opener. Now they are hearing from leading members of the House who didn't want a Saturday opening day and wanted it to remain on Monday. That is exactly why they should go with what the majority of the hunters want on issues that didn't have a significant wildlife management need.

I highly suspect there were also some promises of a license increase bill and now threats in the negotiations both before and since the vote for Saturday. Now the issue is probably a whizzing contest between the Senate and the House and the latest excuse both can use for denying a license increase. The Game Commisison can't win, but I suspect the Legislative body plan to keep it that way until they can justify a legislative take over of the Commission's funds and lands.

With that said though I now actually believe there is sufficient biological benefit from a Saturday opening day. We have needed more antlered deer harvested in some units for over a decade now. The three Saturdays could make great strides in reaching that biological objective. The same can be said of the potential for increased harvests on DMAP properties. So closer examination of the potential might mean their is a biological reason for a Saturday opening day as long as it includes another peak harvest day.

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Old 05-01-2019, 11:48 AM
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I've been expecting this. The Board of Commissioners responded this year to pressure from a leading member of the Senate who wanted the Saturday opener. Now they are hearing from leading members of the House who didn't want a Saturday opening day and wanted it to remain on Monday. That is exactly why they should go with what the majority of the hunters want on issues that didn't have a significant wildlife management need.

I highly suspect there were also some promises of a license increase bill and now threats in the negotiations both before and since the vote for Saturday. Now the issue is probably a whizzing contest between the Senate and the House and the latest excuse both can use for denying a license increase. The Game Commisison can't win, but I suspect the Legislative body plan to keep it that way until they can justify a legislative take over of the Commission's funds and lands.

With that said though I now actually believe there is sufficient biological benefit from a Saturday opening day. We have needed more antlered deer harvested in some units for over a decade now. The three Saturdays could make great strides in reaching that biological objective. The same can be said of the potential for increased harvests on DMAP properties. So closer examination of the potential might mean their is a biological reason for a Saturday opening day as long as it includes another peak harvest day.

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while I agree with most of what you are saying, your last paragraph seems like trying hard to find the “silver lining” on this. I don’t dispute that there are areas that need a higher buck harvest for herd health, I’m just not sure this helps accomplish that. Adding an extra Saturday definitely could buy the Saturday opener will most likely drastically drop Monday numbers so I don’t see much net gain. The same with dmap. On the flip side if it does accomplish that for the areas that need the extra harvest, could it not also cause an “over harvest” of antlered deer in others regions? It don’t think the BOC was looking at this as making any positive impact on biology or they would have stated that. Hunters might take change better if you can show biological benefit.
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I've been expecting this. The Board of Commissioners responded this year to pressure from a leading member of the Senate who wanted the Saturday opener. Now they are hearing from leading members of the House who didn't want a Saturday opening day and wanted it to remain on Monday. That is exactly why they should go with what the majority of the hunters want on issues that didn't have a significant wildlife management need.

I highly suspect there were also some promises of a license increase bill and now threats in the negotiations both before and since the vote for Saturday. Now the issue is probably a whizzing contest between the Senate and the House and the latest excuse both can use for denying a license increase. The Game Commisison can't win, but I suspect the Legislative body plan to keep it that way until they can justify a legislative take over of the Commission's funds and lands.

With that said though I now actually believe there is sufficient biological benefit from a Saturday opening day. We have needed more antlered deer harvested in some units for over a decade now. The three Saturdays could make great strides in reaching that biological objective. The same can be said of the potential for increased harvests on DMAP properties. So closer examination of the potential might mean their is a biological reason for a Saturday opening day as long as it includes another peak harvest day.

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I'm Ok with a Saturday opener in SRA units, and keep the Monday opener in the rest of the state...
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But, RSB...weren't you AGAINST the Saturday opener just a few days ago?

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But, RSB...weren't you AGAINST the Saturday opener just a few days ago?

He's stated several times he was neutral on the issue personally.

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