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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-22-2019, 02:12 PM Thread Starter
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A question about CWD

I'm given to understand that a deer that contracts CWD might go 18 months before showing symptoms. For at least part of this time, that sick deer is shedding prions that cause the disease...ie. spreading CWD.

I'm also given to understand that the main goal of AR was to allow deer to live longer (that is, long enough to grow nicer antlers). And that harvest statistics show that is, in fact, what is happening.

Doesn't it stand to reason that at least some of the bucks that survive their first (and sometimes second) hunting season might be infected with CWD and that AR unwittingly is aiding in the spread of the disease? Is it possible that AR is actually working against our efforts to limit the spread of CWD? In light of this, shouldn't AR be discontinued, at least in the CWD zones?

Disclaimer: I was and am in favor of AR. I don't necessarily want to see it go away, but I'm concerned about CWD and what we, as hunters, can do to limit the spread of it.

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post #2 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-22-2019, 02:45 PM
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the pgc just pays sharpshooters to cull the sub AR bucks in the DMAs.
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When you legislate that 50% of bucks harvested will eat two years of habitat, there's going to be a downside.
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Does anyone know how many confirmed causes of CWD in wild deer Pa. has had?

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Free ranging deer, about 100. Not sure about captive deer. And this doesn't include deer killed in the 2018 season.

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Not really concerned that AR will spread cwd. If it protected most bucks for a lot of years then maybe itíd be something to consider, assuming itís proven an effective strategy. Other states have tried reduction to slow the disease. Some say it hasnít but idk. Wouldnít bother me if it was removed honestly.

Deer I shot this year didnít have many more years left as his teeth were wearing thin. Kinda freaked out to eat it. Not too far from a cwd line. They say the older bucks are more likely to have it and spread it, obviously.
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I am no expert, but AR restrictions in my opinion do not have a significant impact on the spread of the disease. First does and bucks (both young and old) contract the disease. Once they have it they are most likely spreading the prions. I admit that deer that live with the disease longer are spreading more prions within their home range. So shooting all bucks as button bucks or 1 1/2 year old bucks would give those bucks less time to spread the disease, but what about the does? Are we going to shoot all of them as fawns and yearlings, as well?

The does in my opinion are as much of an issue as older bucks because they are most likely spreading it to their fawns or other family group members. Once those fawns become yearlings they may go out and find their own home range more than 10 miles away.

I am the most concerned about young bucks from just before their first birthday to 1 1/2 spreading the disease to new areas and not necessarily older deer. Older deer have more defined home ranges (which could negatively impact the local population), but last year's fawns (especially young bucks) are the ones most likely to travel to find new home ranges. So even if you removed antler restrictions and shot all the older age bucks you are still going to have yearling bucks that have the disease because their mother had it.
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their are no restrictions on antlerless deer an the pgc dmaps so that more tags are available for antlerless deer so i dont see how antlerless deer could be more of an issue.
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