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ARgument against the use of Semi Auto for big game

I am all for the use of semi auto rifles for hunting. with that being said i started this post to ask one question and to understand the views of others and to not muddy up the other posts. lets keep the name calling out of this, personal opinions are as welcome as fact based statements, when citing facts please provide a link to the info if possible.

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What is your argument against the use of Semi Auto rifles for hunting / hunting big game ?

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I am for the use of semi auto,however I can see where some hunters may abuse the use of them. Primarily the "spray and pray " hunter that unloads the magazine at a running animal. I hope that this is an extreme minority .Not much different than some lever gun hunters I hear sometimes in the woods shooting multiple rounds( more than 2-3) in quick succession.
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Just keep it civil here, please.

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My case against is this:

The vast majority of semi auto rifles out there are chambered in 5.56/.223. While I do believe that there are people who ethically and successfully hunt with the .223 caliber, my fear is that anyone with an SA .223 will now think that they should deer hunt with it, because they legally can. Most factory ammunition for .223 is ideal for varmints, not deer/bear. I think this will lead to more non-fatally injured animals, or more animals that are mortally wounded, but run off and are not found. Just my .02. Thanks

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My case against is this:

The vast majority of semi auto rifles out there are chambered in 5.56/.223. While I do believe that there are people who ethically and successfully hunt with the .223 caliber, my fear is that anyone with an SA .223 will now think that they should deer hunt with it, because they legally can. Most factory ammunition for .223 is ideal for varmints, not deer/bear. I think this will lead to more non-fatally injured animals, or more animals that are mortally wounded, but run off and are not found. Just my .02. Thanks
This right here is the only argument against it that logically makes sense.
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This right here is the only argument against it that logically makes sense.
That is the biggest reason why I support the idea of and hope that they enact a caliber restriction for big game animals.
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I plan on hunting with either my .300 AAC Blackout upper or a new LR308 build I'm starting. Ballistically .300 AAC is similar to 7.62x39 or 30-30. It really shines when used with a sound suppressor.
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a suppressor does not make any caliber "shine" any more than a scope does. For a suppressor to truly shine the caliber must be loaded to subsonic velocities. Then in my opinion is not truly a big game load. No way comparable to a 30-30 or 308.
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I'm torn on the idea. I anticipate problems with people firing risky/careless follow-up shots. I also see it as unnecessary since animals can be taken just as well with manual weapons.

On the flip side, I tend to favor less goverment regulation and hunters being trusted to exercise good sense. A couple idiots could ruin it for everyone (or harm or kill someone) so I hope everybody exercises good judgement. That is true of any firearm though. I am pretty much on the fence.

One reason that I think (conspiracy theory warning) there is a push to legalize semi-autos for hunting is to normalize them in people's minds and further blur the definition of an assault rifle. It could further a gun rights agenda to be able to point out that AR-15s, etc., are common hunting rifles. There may be a benefit to that. There is also a risk, though, that it negatively affects public perception of hunters when they are seen carrying "machine guns."

It's a tough call either way in my opinion. However, in my mind, a tie should go to less restriction. If there is no compelling reason to preclude it, a free country should allow it.
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