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post #231 of 411 (permalink) Old 06-24-2019, 02:25 PM
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For the Mr Ricardos of this site. Simply put the hype of a million hunters applying all at the same time is not real. Not even close. Waugh!
And on top of that, there are a lot of hunters that realize that they do not need to rush to buy a first round tag in a WMU with plenty of allocations. On top of that, some hunters are satisfied with 1 WMU tag (myself included - I did not even buy a WMU tag for last season), with maybe a DMAP tag or 2 (or 4) in their pocket already.

The vast majority of WMU's do not sell out in the first round (and in some years none sell out in the first round)....so the bum rush is not necessary for hunters who possess the ability use a few brain cells.
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Even if there was a huge rush and spike in traffic, weíre talking about a day or two at the start of each round at most. From a cost perspective, one could throttle up on those days or even for two months in prep for the load, and back down to normal anticipated traffic throughout the rest of the year. Minimal impact.

You donít need to design and pay for a system that can support a million concurrent transactions 24/7/365...
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Iím still shocked on a monthly basis just how many F500 firms still have a significant portions of their critical ops running on AS400/DB2 stacks.

You sort of are alluding to exactly what I'm trying to get across. Major companies SLOWLY are TRYING to migrate off of legacy (mostly mainframe) running on old stacks. It's not an overnight thing, even for seemingly companies flush with the financial means to get it done. The business, whatever that may be, still has to stay afloat and viable through all the "modernization" efforts of a company. I'm sure ALL companies would like to get rid of Joe RPG developer, with his inflated salary, along with the entire platform he serves. That takes baby steps though.
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Please tell me how the system works now if they do not use a POS system at the courthouse? I need not know how to build a computer to know how to use one. I don't need to know how to code to use a program that is set up to be used by non coders.

I don't need to swim in your pool or have a lane to stay in. If you can not develop a system to issue Doe licenses a few weeks a year, I would not hire you to clean my pool as an IT guru. Waugh!

Pretty sure I can shy away from playing your game, Jim. Serves me no purpose, as you know not what you speak of. The other guy has at least a hint of awareness on the subject.

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Even if there was a huge rush and spike in traffic, weíre talking about a day or two at the start of each round at most. From a cost perspective, one could throttle up on those days or even for two months in prep for the load, and back down to normal anticipated traffic throughout the rest of the year. Minimal impact.

You donít need to design and pay for a system that can support a million concurrent transactions 24/7/365...

This entire migration, away from the county courthouse, MAY work flawlessly. Look, I'm obviously an advocate of utilizing all that the year 2019 provides by way of e-commerce, e-POS, and the power of modern databases. BUT, ya have to be careful. All I was trying to state, is that I'm not sure the current system is "broke enough" to warrant such an undertaking. Automating this, in it's current state, is a many-to-many relationship. You have many people applying, in many different ways/venues. That provides failure points at every venue that has hardware. A POS machine to run the PALS transaction. The printer at the kiosk, etc... and because this is a time sensitive endeavor, that can lead to a bunch of disgruntled customers. And yes, the glut, the rush, the load, should occur only during the 1st round of antlerless, which is a positive.


AGAIN, it can be pulled off. I'm just not sure the current manual process is all that flawed ?


Ö.. and, is this free ? Is PALS going to go through all the analysis, coding, testing, implementation, etc... free of charge ? They aren't charging the PGC or us, any more that what we currently pay ? Well, God bless 'em.

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Pretty sure I can shy away from playing your game, Jim. Serves me no purpose, as you know not what you speak of. The other guy has at least a hint of awareness on the subject.

I am not trying to be an IT guy. Just an end user that knows the courthouses use the same system you say will crash. That is why you are running from my game. Waugh!
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The vast majority of WMU's do not sell out in the first round (and in some years none sell out in the first round)....so the bum rush is not necessary for hunters who possess the ability use a few brain cells.
To bad we canít buy our first doe tag when we buy our license. I donít have things figured out after that.
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To bad we canít buy our first doe tag when we buy our license. I donít have things figured out after that.

That may become a reality. Waugh!
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To bad we canít buy our first doe tag when we buy our license. I donít have things figured out after that.
I think you will see that in the next 5 years or so.

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LOL. Gotta love all the “PA is different from all other states” stuff that gets thrown around in every discussion about a change...

It doesn’t matter how many other states have been doing it differently for years without any hiccups or problems, somehow PA can never change with the times...

Sunday hunting, Saturday openers, semi autos, pink envelope doe license apps, doesn’t matter, PA MUST keep “traditions” and never move forward because this state is somehow an entity all its own.
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