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post #71 of 133 (permalink) Old 06-20-2019, 11:42 AM
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post #72 of 133 (permalink) Old 06-20-2019, 11:53 AM
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After hearing everyone talk about the saturday opener and how it benefits so many hunters. Wouldn’t you want to increase the opportunity even more. As far as impact days and deer harvest numbers, I assume that could be managed by anterless allocations. I’d rather not have Sunday hunting at all.
We all no it has nothing to do with opportunity so i will leave it at that. The doe allocations are already set for this year so they cannot reduce that if the 3 Sundays are passed and 2 are added to rifle. HR is still on going if some want to believe it or not. The experts on here will disagree however. over 21,000 DMAP tags given out and 65,000 more doe tags for 2019 looks like HR to me. I believe most tags were added to control CWD. Sunday hunting i can take it or leave it makes no difference to me but adding 2 more high impact days to rifle is a concern. IF the PGC sees more licenses being sold by adding 2 sundays to rifle they will do it no matter what. All about the benjamins. Most of the decisions that are being made are social not wildlife management anyway. Just my 2 cents anyway
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Yeah, I figure it only makes sense that firearms season will be placated the most. I think everyone's first thought when the Saturday opener was announced is that you pretty much have to add in Sunday hunting at that point for it to make any kind of sense. It would be absurd for people to travel to hunt, get one day to do so, and then have to sit around. It will be interesting to see *if* this goes through where the added days end up falling. REALLY interesting, particularly the day(s) outside of firearms season.

As others have stated, as it's currently slated with a 3-day concession versus just passing a blanket Sunday hunting allowance, this whole thing is going to end up with some bad blood amongst various hunter groups, no matter how it's sliced.
I agree, we all saw what happened with the Saturday opener and the various groups that went against each other. If they give one group a Sunday or 2 the other groups will be up in arms in thinking they are entitled to a Sunday as well. I just dont see this as a good thing. 3 is not that many and groups will be left out or make the Sundays in seasons where you can hunt the most game. I just think its should be all or nothing.
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If they add 2 Sundays to rifle season this year (for the record, I do not see it happening for the 2019-20 seasons), antlerless would only increase by 1 day - granted it will be high impact. The first Sunday will be antlered only for the majority of the state...and the areas in which you can harvest doe during the first week (SRA's) are looking to reduce deer numbers anyway.

Will antlerless tag allocations need to be modified to accommodate a high impact Sunday hunting day? Not sure....hopefully we get to find out in the near future.
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That's the way Md. years ago started it only allowing a few then increasing it then only on private ground. Im not a big fan of it but if it does happen I hope Pa. does a better job at it then Md. did. Make it all state wide, every Sunday, and all ground public and private. Md. even had certain counties or zones it was very confusing.
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I guess to make everyone happy pick your 3 Sunday's when you buy your licenses!
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That's the way Md. years ago started it only allowing a few then increasing it then only on private ground. Im not a big fan of it but if it does happen I hope Pa. does a better job at it then Md. did. Make it all state wide, every Sunday, and all ground public and private. Md. even had certain counties or zones it was very confusing.
Yeah, the Maryland model kind of scares me. They gave just enough concession that the movement to add more opportunity has kind of lost traction, and you still have plenty of places/times where you can't hunt. They only get private ground, only certain counties, etc. and despite having at least SOME Sunday hunting, the whole thing is highly annoying and leaves a lot to be desired. It seems that their legislature figured out that once people get their piece of the action, they aren't terribly inclined to lobby any further for anyone else. The legislatures can then spare themselves from inflaming their non-hunting constituents any further by dodging the issue going forward...

"Well, at least we gave you hunters have something, and something is better than nothing right?"

That's why I'm inclined to have seen the whole bill scrapped versus taking what we can get.

Hopefully, one day in my lifetime (preferably while I am still physically able to hunt) my birth state of PA ends up like where I live now. We talk about hunting and it's impact on farmers in PA, but Nebraska is 90% private land and the vast majority of that is farmland. We have unlimited Sunday hunting opportunities here across all open seasons, and hunters and farmer/farm bureau relations are doing great.
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During the Saturday start bickering, it was resolved by many that the rifle season should be set in stone and never offered additional opportunity again. Now the shoes on the other foot, and some of those same people are against 3 days.
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Yeah, the Maryland model kind of scares me. They gave just enough concession that the movement to add more opportunity has kind of lost traction, and you still have plenty of places/times where you can't hunt. They only get private ground, only certain counties, etc. and despite having at least SOME Sunday hunting, the whole thing is highly annoying and leaves a lot to be desired. It seems that their legislature figured out that once people get their piece of the action, they aren't terribly inclined to lobby any further for anyone else and spare them from inflaming their non-hunting constituents any further. That's why I'm inclined to have seen the whole bill scrapped versus taking what we can get.

Hopefully, one day in my lifetime (preferably while I am still physically able to hunt) my birth state of PA ends up like where I live now. We talk about hunting and it's impact on farmers in PA, but Nebraska is 90% private land and the vast majority of that is farmland. We have unlimited Sunday hunting opportunities here across all open seasons, and hunters and farmer/farm bureau relations are doing great.
Yes my beef with the Md. thing is private ground only. I do have the perk of owning my own property in Pa. but many others don't. Everyone pays the same price for license they should have the same rules private or public. Im now thinking Md. did it that way as has been mentioned on here before, of the tree huggers don't want to see a hunter on public ground on Sundays . We here in Western Md. is controlled by the idiots down east. I still think a few Sundays is a confusing way to do something. Md. rifle opener is Sat. the first year of Sunday and even now one of the days are Sunday after rifle not sure about the second one but some in bow season. I think if it happens 100% or nothing.
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