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post #61 of 133 (permalink) Old 06-20-2019, 10:37 AM
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A small group, pushing their agenda, is opposed by another small group, pushing their agenda.

Nothing unusual about this, it's how the world works. Doesn't matter if we are talking world leaders or township supervisors.

I'm constantly amazed how some here feel hunters are the most important voice in the process, and everyone else isn't. Agriculture is the #1 industry in pa, our hobby, hunting, is way down the list of give a crap to most politicians.

And pfb? That was the boogeyman a decade ago when they wanted us to hunt MORE (HR) and now they're the boogeyman again when they want us to hunt LESS.(no sunday hunting) That's funny.

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A small group, pushing their agenda, is opposed by another small group, pushing their agenda.

Nothing unusual about this, it's how the world works. Doesn't matter if we are talking world leaders or township supervisors.

I'm constantly amazed how some here feel hunters are the most important voice in the process, and everyone else isn't. Agriculture is the #1 industry in pa, our hobby, hunting, is way down the list of give a crap to most politicians.

And pfb? That was the boogeyman a decade ago when they wanted us to hunt MORE (HR) and now they're the boogeyman again when they want us to hunt LESS.(no sunday hunting) That's funny.
When it comes to hunting related issues I absolutely believe the hunters are the most important voice. The pfb should have absolutely zero say in deer management. And why should it matter to them in the least whether a buck or a doe is shot on Sunday. As far as deer and agriculture go a deer is a deer no matter whether it has antlers or not.

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I don't for one second any member of the PFB actually is opposed to Sunday Hunting in principle..(Save for a very small few that might for religious reasons).
The cynic in me totally believes that the PFB uses their "opposition" solely as a lever to "stay relevant" and "get more" in political negotiations, spilling over into other issues.
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As was hinted at in the article, I would rather see 3 days pass easily than 14 days fail in the legislature. I'm glad to hear that Sen. Laughlin believes it will pass easily....I hope he is right.

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A small group, pushing their agenda, is opposed by another small group, pushing their agenda.

Nothing unusual about this, it's how the world works. Doesn't matter if we are talking world leaders or township supervisors.

I'm constantly amazed how some here feel hunters are the most important voice in the process, and everyone else isn't. Agriculture is the #1 industry in pa, our hobby, hunting, is way down the list of give a crap to most politicians.

And pfb? That was the boogeyman a decade ago when they wanted us to hunt MORE (HR) and now they're the boogeyman again when they want us to hunt LESS.(no sunday hunting) That's funny.

There are states that have a much larger farming community/#1 by a much larger margin than PA and also have Sunday hunting. I know PA is different, but there are examples of this not being an issue elsewhere.
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I vote for the Three Sundays in Late Muzzleloader !


Maybe they just let the individual hunters choose which Sundays they want to hunt on. Get on the website, choose your Sundays, get a Sunday Tag.
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We can all bet two Sundays will be open during firearms deer season. This only makes sense since pgc has stated they are all about increasing opportunity to hunters, and this is when most hunters are in the woods. I’d be shocked if this wasn’t the case. To switch the opening day to Saturday and then not add Sundays to the season would be mind boggling.
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The third Sunday id prolly say would be used in bear season, after the Saturday firearms opener.
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We can all bet two Sundays will be open during firearms deer season. This only makes sense since pgc has stated they are all about increasing opportunity to hunters, and this is when most hunters are in the woods. I’d be shocked if this wasn’t the case. To switch the opening day to Saturday and then not add Sundays to the season would be mind boggling.
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The third Sunday id prolly say would be used in bear season, after the Saturday firearms opener.
Do we really want/need that many high impact days in rifle season? I just have concerns over that many high impact days in rifle.

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Do we really want/need that many high impact days in rifle season? I just have concerns over that many high impact days in rifle.
After hearing everyone talk about the saturday opener and how it benefits so many hunters. Wouldn’t you want to increase the opportunity even more. As far as impact days and deer harvest numbers, I assume that could be managed by anterless allocations. I’d rather not have Sunday hunting at all.
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We can all bet two Sundays will be open during firearms deer season. This only makes sense since pgc has stated they are all about increasing opportunity to hunters, and this is when most hunters are in the woods. I’d be shocked if this wasn’t the case. To switch the opening day to Saturday and then not add Sundays to the season would be mind boggling...
Yeah, I figure it only makes sense that firearms season will be placated the most. I think everyone's first thought when the Saturday opener was announced is that you pretty much have to add in Sunday hunting at that point for it to make any kind of sense. It would be absurd for people to travel to hunt, get one day to do so, and then have to sit around. It will be interesting to see *if* this goes through where the added days end up falling. REALLY interesting, particularly the day(s) outside of firearms season.

As others have stated, as it's currently slated with a 3-day concession versus just passing a blanket Sunday hunting allowance, this whole thing is going to end up with some bad blood amongst various hunter groups, no matter how it's sliced.
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