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post #11 of 103 (permalink) Old 06-11-2019, 09:27 AM
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Hopefully the donations will flow in this year.
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post #12 of 103 (permalink) Old 06-11-2019, 09:39 AM
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Can or does the PGC invest that 72 million or more in a liquid investment to or does it just sit there earning nothing? I do not mean to start a firestorm it is just a question.
Obviously it is in investments.

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post #13 of 103 (permalink) Old 06-11-2019, 03:12 PM
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Now we see why the legislature hasn't approved a fee increase.
They didn't approve a fee hike because they hoped the GC would go under and they could take it over and "rape" the GC funds, remember how they took money from DCNR a couple of years ago to "balance" the General Fund.
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post #14 of 103 (permalink) Old 06-11-2019, 03:28 PM
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I’m fully familiar with the requirement of gaining authorization to use funds.

I’m wondering... and maybe I missed this somewhere... what the permitted uses of those funds are, and who approves requisitions of those funds?
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It is the Governor's office of Administration that approves or disapproves the annual budget. Many times they cut money out of the submitted budget.

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What may it be used for (contingent upon approval, of course, by the regulatory body overseeing the fund)?
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What may it be used for (contingent upon approval, of course, by the regulatory body overseeing the fund)?
This is the law, the bolded section says what the money may be used for.

521. Establishment and use of Game Fund.

(a) General rule.--Except as otherwise provided in this title, all fees, royalties, fines, penalties and other moneys paid, received, recovered and collected under the provisions of this title shall be placed in a separate fund by the State Treasurer to be known as the Game Fund and shall be used solely for any contingent, incidental or other expenses of any kind or description reasonably necessary in carrying on the work of the commission, including, but not limited to, the purchase of land, the costs of activities for the promotion of public interest in recreational hunting and furtaking, nongame species, endangered or threatened species and all other game or wildlife in this Commonwealth and administration of this title.

Please note that Royalties are included in the Game Fun

This is the rest of the section that covers certain monies collected through the sale of certain licenses.

(b) Specific allocation of certain revenues.--

(1) A minimum of $4.25 from each resident and nonresident license and $2 from each antlerless deer license issued for which the full fee has been paid shall be used for habitat improvement, development, maintenance, protection and restoration conducive to increasing natural propagation of game and wildlife on all lands under the control or operation of the commission, including lands enrolled in the commission's public access programs and other public lands open to hunting under agreement with the commission. The moneys collected under this paragraph shall be deposited into one separate account and shall be used exclusively for the natural propagation of game and wildlife by:

(i) Improving and maintaining any natural wildlife habitat by the production, distribution and planting of trees, shrubs, vines and forage crops.

(ii) Forest management practices related to the creation and development of food and cover.

(iii) Development and management of food and cover openings, including maintenance of soil fertility and herbaceous ground cover.

(iv) Purchase, construction and enhancement of wetlands and riparian areas.

(v) Construction and maintenance of nesting, brooding and rearing structures or areas.

(vi) The prorated cost for the purchase, maintenance and operation of equipment, tools and materials necessary to meet the habitat improvement objectives of this section. No moneys in this account shall be used for capital purchases under this subparagraph.

The commission shall submit an annual report on all expenditures from this account in the manner prescribed under section 522 (relating to appropriation and audit of moneys).

(2) Any moneys collected by or for the commission from the sale of the migratory bird hunting license shall be used for the purpose of migratory game bird management, habitat acquisition and improvement and related program administrative costs.

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They didn't approve a fee hike because they hoped the GC would go under and they could take it over and "rape" the GC funds, remember how they took money from DCNR a couple of years ago to "balance" the General Fund.
If the PGC did request a fee increase this year and it was denied, that automatically means the legislature is trying is to take over and rape the game fund?

We've been told what to believe in the past whenever a fee increase was denied. This year exposes something within the approval process that rarely gets mentioned when the request is denied. The PGC is sufficiently funded when they asked for a increase.

I think this is the first year I've ever heard the PGC say we have enough money...
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Incorrect, you heard them say it tacitly during all the many years we benefited from them not asking for a license increase, long before the windfall of the gas drilling leases.! Nice try, but you get no cigar, only raspberries, pthllllllllllllllllll! Best I can do for a raspberry.

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post #20 of 103 (permalink) Old 06-11-2019, 06:23 PM
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As with a political party keeping their base riled up with anything that sticks, the PGC engages the same tactics.
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