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#1 ·
Just had my LR308 out shooting tiny groups at 100yds. Can't wait to hunt with it in Maryland and West Virginia. Too bad that in my home state many people, including hunters, have to run to a safe place in fear at the sight of me carrying it.
Poor snowflakes! Bet they are scared of MAGA hats as well.
 
#9 ·
Unfortunately the snowflakes of our state are not able to accept the FACT that your rifle is no less safe then any other firearm currently legal to hunt with in this state. The PGC is taking baby steps with the semi inclusion, so Im sure its just a matter of time until you will get to use it.

How about some details and/or pics of your rifle?

Good luck, Tony
 
#33 ·
Old 3 day doe season, 4 guys I hunted with had 06 Meatmasters with 10 round clips. They each carried 3 clips and an extra box of shells and several times a guy would be out of shells and looking to borrow some. They liked to slig the lead. Field hunting at running deer in Greene Co.
 
#11 ·
Just had my LR308 out shooting tiny groups at 100yds. Can't wait to hunt with it in Maryland and West Virginia. Too bad that in my home state many people, including hunters, have to run to a safe place in fear at the sight of me carrying it.
Poor snowflakes! Bet they are scared of MAGA hats as well.

use it for groundhogs here in PA, perfectly legal
 

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#76 ·
Its kind of funny, there was a time when people didn't give any of that much thought. Wonder why In today's me me me wirld its a problem.
I always thought in Pa we were pretty blessed to able to hunt with rifles and weapons that we already do compared to some slug gun states. I've hunted some of those states and thought I wouldn't be happy not being able to use my rifles there. But they have the laws for a reason

Just think if they never legalized alchohol how many lives would have been different. If alchohol wasn't available at every store and glamorized. We have a huge beer culture in this country(every occasion is an occasion to drink)many many drunks and alcholics. Now its hey we need to legalize marijuana. Never enough...next we will have to legalize another drug.

Pa has been a leader in wildlife management and the hunting industry for decades without Sunday hunting. But other states get to hunt Sunday so now we have to throw a fit because it's not legal to hunt here on Sunday.
I don't know it's backwards or if we had it right all along!

The biggest risk to freedom is to much freedom!
 
#26 ·
So please do tell what makes the average PA hunter so much less safe and responsible compared to hunters elsewhere in the country?
Is it something in the water? More radon gas or coal fumes? Centralia gasses? Scrapple?
Just trying to figure out what causes PA hunters to be held in such low regard by their peers compared to hunters in every other state that uses semi-automatics responsibly?
 
#43 ·
5. There's no limit to the mag size for a pump gun. Interestingly enough, this shotgun, as pictured is perfectly legal to use for all big game throughout the commonwealth, and has been legal in the SRA'a for decades. I must have missed the piles of bodies from all the rambos behind every tree.
 

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#22 ·
Imagine if small game hunters were allowed to shoot a running rabbits across a corn field or squirrels with a semi auto .22 thru the tree tops... Or if predator hunters were allowed to hunt with semi's in the dark of the night. Or if these guns were used in open pastured on groundhogs. Gosh the consequences would be tragic, accidents would skyrocket! Right???
 
#35 ·
Every time this topic comes up those in favor say that those opposed are “blaming the gun” and every time they are told no the people are the problem. The guns are a tool and in safe hands are safe. In the hand is an idiot they are deadly, regardless of action type. Those in favor of inclusion acknowledge the existence of unsafe hunters and even use their erratic shooting as an excuse, yet they can’t grasp why someone would be concerned about allowing these idiots to have increased rate of fire.
 
#37 ·
So then I'll ask you the same question I posted earlier:

So please do tell what makes the average PA hunter so much less safe and responsible compared to hunters elsewhere in the country?
Is it something in the water? More radon gas or coal fumes? Centralia gasses? Scrapple?
Just trying to figure out what causes PA hunters to be held in such low regard by their peers compared to hunters in every other state that uses semi-automatics responsibly?

One has to assume that either the same extreme minority of unsafe hunters exists equally in other states, or PA hunters are somehow unique.
If PA hunter are unique, I ask the above questions regarding how and why?
 
#48 ·
Why are the hunters of Pennsylvania so untrustworthy compared to hunters in other states where semi-auto's are allowed? What data/information are the negative forum responders using as a basis for not trusting their fellow PA hunters? Again, please explain the basis for concern with regard to PA hunters misusing semi-auto rifles while hunting?
They have no accurate data. That is why all you will ever read in their replies is a never ending merry-go round of opinions, assumptions, and unconformable personal claims. The anti-semi for hunting crowd follow in the same foot steps as put out by the anti-2A crowd. Things like "not needed", "to dangerous", "weapons of war", "spray and pray", ect ect ect are all claims shared by the anti-SA-hunting/anti 2A supporters. Another common thing that the anti-SA-hunting/anti 2A crowd share; is the willingness to judge the majority of hunters/gun owners based on the negative actions of a very small percentage of people. Both the anti-SA-hunting/anti 2A supporters continually ignore the FACTS (hunter safety data, gun ownership safety data, ect.) that there are millions of honest, law abiding, ethical hunters/gun owners across this country.

Good luck, Tony
 
#44 ·
From the time this issue first came up in a big way I fought it every way I could. My concerns haven’t changed probably never will. Then the PGC pushed it through for small game/varmints. I continued to fight against it for big game. In emails from commissioner Daley I was told he saw no movement towards big game inclusion because “our hunter base is against it”. After some thought I decided this was probably inevitable, there could be no “win” for those who opposed it. Even if the “for” crowd was a minority they wouldn’t stop and the PGC would eventually cave. I stopped fighting it. If it happened it happened. I even thought well if it passes and the guys who think it will help against antigunners are right it may do some good. Then this year happened. The boc slid in the proposal for big game again, so much for no movement. Then it was immediately crushed by the GA. Yesterday in another thread an article was referenced that showed a tally of emails, 850 for/220 against and all form emails deleted. The poster suggested he knew of 40k suck form letters. Seems by those numbers that maybe Daley was lying and maybe the majority of hunters are not against this. Did the ga stop full inclusion a few years ago too? If that’s the case it may never happen.
 
#45 ·
Maybe this will help you snowflakes get over your fear:
https://www.americanrifleman.org/ar...-this-old-gun-remington-model-81-woodsmaster/
Note semis were available and being used for hunting BEFORE bolt guns were common. Before most pumps. Before Winchester 54's, 70's or even sportorized 1903's.But men weren't snowflakes back then.
Also the AR-15 has been sold as a hunting rifle for over 56 YEARS! And it is now the number 1 sporting rifle sold.
I just guess PA hunters aren't as mature and brave as hunters in the socialist state of Maryland.


BTW if you are against this, you are a tool of Nancy Pelosi's and Chucky Schumer, don't even pretend this isn't about gun control.
 
#61 ·
Maybe this will help you snowflakes get over your fear:
https://www.americanrifleman.org/ar...-this-old-gun-remington-model-81-woodsmaster/
Note semis were available and being used for hunting BEFORE bolt guns were common. Before most pumps. Before Winchester 54's, 70's or even sportorized 1903's.But men weren't snowflakes back then.
Also the AR-15 has been sold as a hunting rifle for over 56 YEARS! And it is now the number 1 sporting rifle sold.
I just guess PA hunters aren't as mature and brave as hunters in the socialist state of Maryland.


BTW if you are against this, you are a tool of Nancy Pelosi's and Chucky Schumer, don't even pretend this isn't about gun control.

Greybeard do you really think spouting snowflake snowflake advances your argument at all? It just makes you look overly emotional and lacking anything that makes sense to say. Nobody here has a fear of SA rifles. And suggesting that any one who against SA for big game in PA is in league with liberal democrats is ridiculous to say the least. You guys are starting to sound a little hysterical. The issue is a non issue for at least a few years any way. The PAGC tabled the discussion on SA's for how ever long they do. And my guess is it will be years before its brought up again.
 
#47 ·
A shot fired is either safe or not. The style of firearm has no influence on that. And rate of fire for someone with a pump or lever vs. someone with a SA is negligible. The only SA rifle I have is in .223 and even though that's legal for deer I'm not comfortable using it so I won't take advantage of the new freedom if it were to pass. But I hope everyone that wishes to hunt with a SA someday will be able to.
 
#52 ·
You could drop an upper in 300 Blackout (30-30 equivalent) , 6.8SPC or 6.5Grendel (both 270 equivalents) on there if .223 seems smaller/under-powered to you... or any number of "wildcats"...
Just putting it out there, plenty of "big bore" options for the AR platform that are as simple as pushing 2 pins...
 
#54 ·
Hard to believe any hunter would be against a SA weapon for hunting. Real hard to believe some on this site are open about not allowing hunters to use any weapon that is legal to hunt with and not supporting fellow hunters rights when these topics/law changes come up. To all the AR and semi guys out there stay strong. The fellow hunters who are scared and against a certain weapon are ignorant and will never prevail. Sad that one hunters beliefs could effect another hunters enjoyment.
 
#58 ·
Yeah, most all the guys that want to hunt with SA have stated they don't care about what weapon other hunters choices are. It almost makes me wonder if these hunters are anti 2A. In my mind your either all in or all out there is no neutral ground with the anti 2A or anti hunters.
 
#56 ·
Too bad that in my home state many people, including hunters, have to run to a safe place in fear at the sight of me carrying it. Poor snowflakes! Bet they are scared of MAGA hats as well.

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