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PA has the highest hunter density in the country. Every 10 acre woodlot has an orangehead on opening day. I don't think comparisons to other states is always useful.
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If this becomes a reality https://www.abc27.com/news/local/exp...ans/1779735922 we will have less hunters even more and wont matter what days we have for each season

"The Game Commission says it's better to be cautious. It advises that hunters remove and not eat high-risk parts including the brain, tongue, tonsils, spinal cord and spleen."

So much for my spinal cord and spleen souffle' with brain sauce.

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Actually there isn't nearly 2x as many rifle only hunters. Without looking up the actual #'s, I think it is about 60/40 split of rifle only to archery hunters.

Edit. Actually it is more like 55/45 looking at the #'s.

I'm estimating based on the last archery and overall numbers I had seen. Per the PGC site, archery sales were roughly 350,000. Total license sales, let's just give it 900,000. The variable, is not knowing how many of the 900,000 will choose to tote a rifle for deer also (there are no rifle only stamps). I'm fairly certain that rifle deer is THE primary reason folks purchase a license, and would seriously doubt a 55/45 ratio.

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"The Game Commission says it's better to be cautious. It advises that hunters remove and not eat high-risk parts including the brain, tongue, tonsils, spinal cord and spleen."

So much for my spinal cord and spleen souffle' with brain sauce.
Are you from Kazakhstan ? From what I hear that’s a delicacy over there.
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I'm estimating based on the last archery and overall numbers I had seen. Per the PGC site, archery sales were roughly 350,000. Total license sales, let's just give it 900,000. The variable, is not knowing how many of the 900,000 will choose to tote a rifle for deer also (there are no rifle only stamps). I'm fairly certain that rifle deer is THE primary reason folks purchase a license, and would seriously doubt a 55/45 ratio.

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Now bow did the BOC miss that?

A rifle stamp. Lol
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I'm estimating based on the last archery and overall numbers I had seen. Per the PGC site, archery sales were roughly 350,000. Total license sales, let's just give it 900,000. The variable, is not knowing how many of the 900,000 will choose to tote a rifle for deer also (there are no rifle only stamps). I'm fairly certain that rifle deer is THE primary reason folks purchase a license, and would seriously doubt a 55/45 ratio.

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I'm pretty sure what C was trying to show was "rifle-only" hunters....not all rifle hunters. Given the numbers in your post, gun-only hunters to archery hunters would be 61/39.

I say gun-only because there are muzzleloader hunters in there as well....if you figure in ML license sales, the ratio of rifle-only hunters drops even further. In addition, some of the 900,000 hunters do not even hunt deer.
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I'm pretty sure what C was trying to show was "rifle-only" hunters....not all rifle hunters. Given the numbers in your post, gun-only hunters to archery hunters would be 61/39.

I say gun-only because there are muzzleloader hunters in there as well....if you figure in ML license sales, the ratio of rifle-only hunters drops even further. In addition, some of the 900,000 hunters do not even hunt deer.

I get that. That said, if 350,000 hunters buy an archery stamp, we can assume they archery hunt. Many, well most, also rifle hunt. That said, If "only" 350,000 hunters purchase an archery stamp, and 900,000 hunters buy a general license, how many of those 550,000 non-archers do you think rifle hunt ?



Granted, there is a very small lot that will only hunt a Turkey, or a Rabbit, or a Grouse, but........

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I'm pretty sure what C was trying to show was "rifle-only" hunters....not all rifle hunters. Given the numbers in your post, gun-only hunters to archery hunters would be 61/39.

I say gun-only because there are muzzleloader hunters in there as well....if you figure in ML license sales, the ratio of rifle-only hunters drops even further. In addition, some of the 900,000 hunters do not even hunt deer.

I get that. That said, if 350,000 hunters buy an archery stamp, we can assume they archery hunt. Many, well most, also rifle hunt. That said, If "only" 350,000 hunters purchase an archery stamp, and 900,000 hunters buy a general license, how many of those 550,000 non-archers do you think rifle hunt ?


Granted, there is a very small lot that will only hunt a Turkey, or a Rabbit, or a Grouse, but........

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Geez... Guess I had to say it twice. LOL
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I suppose it might help if you used real data. Jeez you're like one of them climate scientists, just spewing out random data and guesses to make your case.

2017 there were 588k resident licenses sold and 325k resident archery. That's 55.2% if you assume all the license buyers are rifle hunting. The days of 900,000 licenses sold was a couple decades ago.
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