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Well...it could say that the BOC will take it into consideration...but that doesn't seem likely...since they already know the results and they are the ones considering the change in the first place.
It could say a lot of things. It could say that the guy who wrote the question was wearing a pink shirt with a purple polka dot tie at the time? What's the point??????

If you read that Game News article, it was perfectly clear that at least one person did not give the poll any regard whatsoever? So why even conduct the poll, and cite it in the article, if it's going to be disregarded anyway????
That's the kind of thing the PGC does that frustrates me. Pay money to conduct a pol, and then have the BOC totally ignore it. So it's a waste of time and money....
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It could say a lot of things. It could say that the guy who wrote the question was wearing a pink shirt with a purple polka dot tie at the time? What's the point??????

If you read that Game News article, it was perfectly clear that at least one person did not give the poll any regard whatsoever? So why even conduct the poll, and cite it in the article, if it's going to be disregarded anyway????
Thats why i said in an earlier post the BOC could care less what the hunters prefer or want as long as it benefits them.
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Thanks Cspot. I did see that survey but did not read through it because I thought there was a more recent survey on the subject. I agree that the single question does not address the added day. The added day was the deciding factor for me and I am sure for alot of other hunters. I also have to question the validity of a 4 year old survey.

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Thanks Cspot. I did see that survey but did not read through it because I thought there was a more recent survey on the subject. I agree that the single question does not address the added day. The added day was the deciding factor for me and I am sure for alot of other hunters. I also have to question the validity of a 4 year old survey.

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There may be a more recent survey. The PGC is horrible at updating their website.

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At this point, they are going to do what they are going to do. I believe the biggest change I have seen in hunting in my lifetime was the implementation of AR/HR. In the end, those changes proved to be a lot for some people and it resulted in the largest decline in hunter participation that we've had, for various reasons - one of them being the amount of ground that got posted.
Right here and now, with all of these proposals for change coming down the pipe, I believe that we are on the precipice of another time of big change, and we will see the same results for the same reasons. If all of this stuff gets implemented, within 5 years from that happening, we will see another large drop in hunter participation and license sales. It is just too much for some.
I will continue to hunt whether I like this stuff or not, but to me some of it is very frustrating. A lot of people just say the heck with it and give up. I love hunting too much for that, I guess we will see.
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At this point, they are going to do what they are going to do. I believe the biggest change I have seen in hunting in my lifetime was the implementation of AR/HR. In the end, those changes proved to be a lot for some people and it resulted in the largest decline in hunter participation that we've had, for various reasons - one of them being the amount of ground that got posted.
Right here and now, with all of these proposals for change coming down the pipe, I believe that we are on the precipice of another time of big change, and we will see the same results for the same reasons. If all of this stuff gets implemented, within 5 years from that happening, we will see another large drop in hunter participation and license sales. It is just too much for some.
I will continue to hunt whether I like this stuff or not, but to me some of it is very frustrating. A lot of people just say the heck with it and give up. I love hunting too much for that, I guess we will see.
I swear you and i have the same brain lol. I said basically the same thing earlier in this post but you just worded it much better.

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9 On what kind of land did you hunt deer in Pennsylvania during the 2013 14 seasons?

55% Privately owned land ex Owned by private citizens and companies

16%Publicly owned land ex Government-ownedlands like State Game Lands and State Forests

29% Both privately and publicly owned land.


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I swear you and i have the same brain lol.
That would scare the crap out of alot of people......but then again, maybe great minds think alike!!!!

I may have missed your earlier post, I got weary of this thread for a while before getting back in to it....
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At this point, they are going to do what they are going to do. I believe the biggest change I have seen in hunting in my lifetime was the implementation of AR/HR. In the end, those changes proved to be a lot for some people and it resulted in the largest decline in hunter participation that we've had, for various reasons - one of them being the amount of ground that got posted.
Right here and now, with all of these proposals for change coming down the pipe, I believe that we are on the precipice of another time of big change, and we will see the same results for the same reasons. If all of this stuff gets implemented, within 5 years from that happening, we will see another large drop in hunter participation and license sales. It is just too much for some.
I will continue to hunt whether I like this stuff or not, but to me some of it is very frustrating. A lot of people just say the heck with it and give up. I love hunting too much for that, I guess we will see.
I really don't see that much change coming down the pipe compared to other years. If you look back there has been alot of change over the last 30 years.

HR going to a full 2 week concurrent was a far bigger change in my opinion.

The Saturday opener has been discussed by the BOC for a number of years. This isn't new news. Even if it passes in Jan it may not pass in April. Remember with SA they passed it for all game in Jan, but then just did the small game in April. They will get more feedback after the Jan meeting if it is passed.

I would guess that right now probably 95% or more of hunters aren't even aware of this proposal being on the agenda. If it passes in Jan then it will likely get some more news coverage and they will get more feedback.

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9 On what kind of land did you hunt deer in Pennsylvania during the 2013 14 seasons?

55% Privately owned land ex Owned by private citizens and companies

16%Publicly owned land ex Government-ownedlands like State Game Lands and State Forests

29% Both privately and publicly owned land.


Someone was asking for this on another post. Waugh!

Who. Not me. I was wanting harvest data.

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