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post #51 of 90 (permalink) Old 01-06-2019, 09:59 AM
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Im Offended..... NOT.... good post and its truth!
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I so often hear all you gotta do is get a bow(or crossbow). So many equate an increased level of success by going to bow hunting but want to scoff at the notion of the argument about bow hunters get a long first wack. I realize that an increase in the amount of time in the woods increases your odds but why is it bow is always the answer and why can't it be rifle. I have an easier time getting off work near rifle season than during busier times like bow/small game season. This is where I want Sunday hunting as I work a lot of Saturdays in the fall but not Sunday so my time in the woods would increase without having to buy another weapon(and time to become proficient with it) and tag. I enjoy rifle and late muzzleloader season as it feels like deer season not when it is 75. I also enjoy small game hunting in the fall.
Rifle season has seen a dramatic decrease in participation in areas that I hunt. Well when a long bow season, early muzzie and jr/sr doe season precede it lots of hunters are done by the time rifle season comes around. I was the only hunter in the woods yesterday in the 3 areas I hunted and no shoots were heard.
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I so often hear all you gotta do is get a bow(or crossbow). So many equate an increased level of success by going to bow hunting but want to scoff at the notion of the argument about bow hunters get a long first wack.
No one I believe is scoffing at the FACT that archery deer hunters enjoy a long season and and get "first wack" at the deer...what IS being scoffed at is the comments by those who choose not to participate and imply that they are somehow being excluded.
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I realize that an increase in the amount of time in the woods increases your odds but why is it bow is always the answer and why can't it be rifle.
I really don't know...but a guess at one reason would be that archery deer hunting has smaller safety zones...enabling hunters to take more deer out of more areas...like the suburbs where deer have become problems animals.

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I have an easier time getting off work near rifle season than during busier times like bow/small game season.
What doesn't work for you...may work for others.
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This is where I want Sunday hunting as I work a lot of Saturdays in the fall but not Sunday so my time in the woods would increase without having to buy another weapon(and time to become proficient with it) and tag.
Hope this happens for you and all of us.

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I enjoy rifle and late muzzleloader season as it feels like deer season not when it is 75. I also enjoy small game hunting in the fall.
Rifle season has seen a dramatic decrease in participation in areas that I hunt. Well when a long bow season, early muzzie and jr/sr doe season precede it lots of hunters are done by the time rifle season comes around. I was the only hunter in the woods yesterday in the 3 areas I hunted and no shoots were heard.
I highlighted part of your comment because it at least partially explains your reason for not hunting deer in archery season.

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I'll jump in and if I offend some folks so be it... I read all of the replies, and wow... So much, of hunting is all about me, my enjoyment and what I get out of my hunt, what I do is my business, don't tell me what I should and shouldn't do, etc, etc. I get all that, believe me, but I'd like to encourage some more thought about our roles as hunters, and that being stewards of a resource. I would like to suggest that maybe we should put out own thoughts, personal goals, agendas aside and think about, and ultimately do, what is best for the deer herd and its effect on the environment. If that means shooting a doe or two, or more if the situation in your area dictates that, then so be it. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I really don't care.
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The biggest problem I see with hunters is that they don't stick together. The sport is under fire from many sources, and all we want to do is argue about Sunday hunting, crossbow vs compound, if a .223 is big enough to kill a deer, baiting vs food plots, whether you should call the game warden over minor infractions, you name it.

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I'll jump in and if I offend some folks so be it... I read all of the replies, and wow... So much, of hunting is all about me, my enjoyment and what I get out of my hunt, what I do is my business, don't tell me what I should and shouldn't do, etc, etc. I get all that, believe me, but I'd like to encourage some more thought about our roles as hunters, and that being stewards of a resource. I would like to suggest that maybe we should put out own thoughts, personal goals, agendas aside and think about, and ultimately do, what is best for the deer herd and its effect on the environment. If that means shooting a doe or two, or more if the situation in your area dictates that, then so be it. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I really don't care.
I'm not flaming you for your opinion it is your right to express it...but I will ask...why should I shoot more deer than I want to...as a usually one and done hunter...I don't want to kill more than I need/want...I know there are programs like hunters feeding the hungry that I could donate to...but my ethic compass has issues with that...I would have no problem killing another deer for someone I know who needs it or wants it...but in a case where I'm donating to unknown sources...I have to ask myself am I killing for the sake of killing...I have no problem with other hunters taking as many deer as they can or choose to...but killing a deer is a personal thing for me...I hunt for the hunt not for the kill.
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food plots happen to be a legal form of baiting. they are not planted for harvest, just to attract and feed deer....aka....bait.


with that being said....its legal, you have the time to do it....go for it....it helps the resource in many ways. i dont have any problem with anyone doing what is legal. i would like to learn how to trap. but i really dont think i can do what comes next if i am successful. i like trapping, just not sure its for me.


i like flintlocks, i know they are not for me. i like all forms of hunting, some of it isnt for me. its like tattoos and motorcycles....i like both of them, just not for me.


its like individual tastes in women, and i will stop there
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its like individual tastes in women, and i will stop there

Good call. That would have gone down hill faster than a bowing ball on a waterslide.

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I'll jump in and if I offend some folks so be it... I read all of the replies, and wow... So much, of hunting is all about me, my enjoyment and what I get out of my hunt, what I do is my business, don't tell me what I should and shouldn't do, etc, etc. I get all that, believe me, but I'd like to encourage some more thought about our roles as hunters, and that being stewards of a resource. I would like to suggest that maybe we should put out own thoughts, personal goals, agendas aside and think about, and ultimately do, what is best for the deer herd and its effect on the environment. If that means shooting a doe or two, or more if the situation in your area dictates that, then so be it. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I really don't care.

The only ones that will ARgue with you on the topic are those that already have changed the topic. Waugh!

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I'll jump in and if I offend some folks so be it... I read all of the replies, and wow... So much, of hunting is all about me, my enjoyment and what I get out of my hunt, what I do is my business, don't tell me what I should and shouldn't do, etc, etc. I get all that, believe me, but I'd like to encourage some more thought about our roles as hunters, and that being stewards of a resource. I would like to suggest that maybe we should put out own thoughts, personal goals, agendas aside and think about, and ultimately do, what is best for the deer herd and its effect on the environment. If that means shooting a doe or two, or more if the situation in your area dictates that, then so be it. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I really don't care.
I'm not offended, I get what you're saying.

But whil e kioti expressed it perfectly. I'm not anti doe hunting, but I also don't feel obligated to personally shoot one as long as theres others who actually want to. Liscenses in 1A always sell out so apparently there is no reason for me to feel like I need to personally be part of that process.
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