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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 01-27-2020, 01:32 AM Thread Starter
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NFA Trust

as much as i value my privacy i am taking the plunge and getting a suppressor. with that said i was wondering about a NFA trust, anybody here do one at the time of purchase. i can do that for $25.00 but was told that it will hold up the paper work for what could be months more in addition to the usual 10 month or so wait for the suppressor.


i can also do it after i get the suppressor, but was told it will cost $200.00, that must be for an additional tax stamp ? just curious. i am going to do it after i get it, i want it for next predator season.

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I have all of my NFA items in a trust. It was a lot simpler until Obama messed it up. You might wait 30-45 days extra for a trust but nothing egregious already more than the blatant trampling of your rights as it stands right now.

Yes, if you buy a silencer and buy a stamp in your name then when you transfer it to a trust it will cost another $200.

I'd look at the #'s of trusts written vs individuals... its very telling. I efile all of mine and I do Form 1's so my wait time is generally only 30 days or so.

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form 1's are for the trust ? and 4's are for the suppressor...correct ?

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I must be missing something as I don't see a benefit to the trust vs just owning the suppressor.
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This is my understanding of a trust and its benefits.

Benefit of trust is having the ability to add additional people for ownership of suppressors at no expense. I have one suppressor registered as individual, and another application for a suppressor pending for a trust. Once trust is approved I will add my son to the trust, that way either one of us can use the suppressors on our own. Also, when I pass, he will now have ownership of all suppressors without having to reapply for ownership and pay the $205 application fee for each suppressor.

Yes I will have to spend another $205 to have first suppressor put into trust. (The good part is I already have it)!! I did not realize this when I did my first application.
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with out a trust, the owner of the suppressor is the only person who can legally use it. no one else, not even a family member from what i understand. also, if the owner dies the family can not legally keep the suppressor with out a trust.


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Iíve been considering setting up an NFA trust as well.

Any good links on how to get started? Or good resources for establishing one?
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with out a trust, the owner of the suppressor is the only person who can legally use it. no one else, not even a family member from what i understand. also, if the owner dies the family can not legally keep the suppressor with out a trust.


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This is my understanding as well. This is why I did the trust. Once my son is on trust, family is OK with ownership if something happens to me.


I did mine thru Silencer Shop, but bought a suppressor at the same time. Very easy, all electronic submission. There was one form that I had to sign and get notarized, scanned it to pdf, emailed to Silencer Shop. Much easier than I thought it would be.

I do not know if they do trusts without purchase. One phone call can answer all your questions.
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form 1's are for the trust ? and 4's are for the suppressor...correct ?
Form 1s are if you are the manufacturer of the NFA item.

Form 4s are if you are purchasing an NFA item from a dealer.
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with out a trust, the owner of the suppressor is the only person who can legally use it. no one else, not even a family member from what i understand. also, if the owner dies the family can not legally keep the suppressor with out a trust.


Federal felony charges apply.
Here's my understanding of the law. I am NOT an attorney and this is NOT a legal opinion.

--Any member of the trust can posses and transport the NFA items and anyone can shoot them as long as a member of the trust is in the presence of that person.

--Just like a machine gun shoot - anyone can go and shoot the MGs that are owned by someone else that has them registered. Again, as long as the owner of MG is on site
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