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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 11-03-2018, 11:08 AM Thread Starter
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Does any one have any experience with the ATN X-SIGHT 4K PRO scope? Looking at videos online the night vision looks pretty good for predator hunting. It appears the main weekness is the battery time is pretty low. Thinking of getting one.

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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 11-05-2018, 06:22 AM
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I don't think you can use it for hunting in Pa.
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as of right now it would not be legal. there is a proposal to legalize them and thermal scopes but who knows what will happen.

if you buy it for fun they get good reviews aside from the battery so the recommendation would be the battery pack. the combo will be heavy though.
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Curious as to what your reasoning is that it’s not legal in PA?
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Are you referring to Title 58 SS141.6 (6) Hunt or take wildlife through the use of an electronic contrivance or device not permitted by Commission regulation.

My next question would be what electronic contrivances are permitted by Commission regulation?

Modern LED flashlights are electronic contrivances.
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Are you referring to Title 58 SS141.6 (6) Hunt or take wildlife through the use of an electronic contrivance or device not permitted by Commission regulation.

My next question would be what electronic contrivances are permitted by Commission regulation?

Modern LED flashlights are electronic contrivances.



read the regulations and call the PGC, they are not legal for hunting. if you think you found a loop hole...go for it.



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If you rolled the dice you would win in court. The reg book does not define an electronic contrivance and does not specifically state night vision is not legal. It does state that scopes with lighted reticals are permitted as long as it does not project a light beam. NV scopes have a lighted reticle and do not project light. Iím not saying to do this but itís an observation.
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Somewhere there are specific electronic items listed that are permitted. Electronic callers, gun mounted lamps and flashlights for predators. Lighted pins for bows and lighted scopes. If it’s not on the list it’s illegal. If you want to try and call night vision a “lighted scope” go ahead but obviously the PGC sees it differently or it wouldn’t need to be discussed for legalization.
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night vision projects an infrared light beam.

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night vision projects an infrared light beam.
Light? That’s arguable. It’s infrared radiation. I don’t see any light emitted from night vision. Not all that different than a range finder which is ok to use. And they don’t have to project infrared radiation in order to work. NV intensifies available ambient light.
And if it is ruled that IR is “light” then you have a weapon mounted light which is legal for hunting coyotes. Coyotes are the only thing you’d be using NV for anyway.

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