Well i finally took the plunge and went and bought an ar Saturday, last weekend a local shop had the dpms oracle on sale for $399 so i was gonna go buy it. Called sold the last one, so since then i was kinda wanting one, so went to another shops annual sale/range day and came home with a smith mp 15 flat top. I think i got a better gun then what i was gonna get the weekend before. When the guy told me it came with a 30rd mag i asked him ifnwe could switch it for a 10rd since i dont have no use for the 30rd, shouldve seen his face ha. Only problem was i didnt know ars need special height rings, went to put a redfield 3-9 on her with my burris rings and it was way low couldnt look thru it. So going tuesday to cabelas to get either a leupold or burris mount. Cant wait to take it out for some groundhogs and foxes/yotes later this year as this was the deciding factor of me getting one. Gotta get some regular non crimped brass so i can work up some loads for her, have some 55 match bullets i thinkll work just fine on groundhogs. Looks odd in my one gun cabinet with some of my other guns!

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There is no magazine restriction for hunting so why not 30rd?

I like the way it looks without the huge mag on it, looks more like a sniper rifle lol

Fair enough, sometimes the shorter mags are easier to shoot off the bench also.

Good choice.

I think the M&P 15 is the best value out there. If you have H-335 try 26 grains behind a "good" 50 or 52 grain bullet. That load shots great out of my M&P 15.

search the net for the mounts/rings before you go to Cabelas. you could save some cash

I don't have much experience with DPMS, I'm sure they're fine, but I think you got a better gun in the S&W

Get a 20 round mag. This way you have the best of both worlds. A shorter mag that won't hang up if shooting prone, plus you have plenty of spare ammo. I've got a couple 20 round mags and I prefer them over the 30 rounders I have.

When mounting the scope, you need the higher mounts due to the straight stock configuration. If the stock had some drop to it like most rifles, then you could get away with lower mounted scopes.

Was able to take her to the range today, had some ppu 55gr fmj, ppu 69gr match and some federal nosler ballist tips. Everything shot around 1.5-2" af 100 which isnt bad for the first time out, the 69gr match was just a touch better than the others though. I hate the buttstock, dont feel like i can get rock solid lots of slop, thinkig of going to a fixed one or something thatll have a tighter fit. All in all with some reloads, and getting the stock squared away i think shell be a really nice shooting rifle. I was never an ar guy and since they allowed them this year I figured i had to have one because that was always my excuse to not get one because i couldnt hunt with it, well after shooting it today i wished i wouldve gotten one sooner! Here she is with the scope mounted.

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I never heard the excuse before.