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long range groundhog rifle

Hey guy,

I have a savage model 10 action that was timed and trued by Sharp Shooter Supply. Its a repeating action. Id like to make it a magazine fed long range groundhog gun. Most of my shots are 500 yards and under. but would like to use it to punch paper and steel out to 1000.

Im leaning towards .243 or .243 ackley. Or some other 6mm cartridge. Probably put it in a XLR industries chasis. topped with a sightron s3 6-24 or 8-32.

any suggestions for caliber? i already have a 6.5 creedmoor so thats out.

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Re: long range groundhog rifle

How about the 6x47 Lapua
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Re: long range groundhog rifle

ive heard good things about all the 6mm variants.

id like for it to load reliably from a 308 AICS magazine. just because they will fit the chasis.

what about 6 dasher? or 6xc? 6 x 47 lapua? how well will they feed. ive heard 6 BR wont feed well from a mag?
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Re: long range groundhog rifle

I have both a 6BR and 6x47 Lapua. The BR is a single shot so I can't claim to know if it feeds, but I've heard they can be made to feed by a competent 'smith. The 6x47 is built on a 700 BDL short action and it feeds flawlessly. Really not a whole lot of difference between the 6x47 and the 243. I have and shoot both and a 100 fps difference is hard to see. Theoretically, the 6x47 should be more accurate, because it's a custom barrel, but my 700VLS in 243 thinks it's a custom. If I had to do over, I wouldn't have gone 6x47, since my 243 is basically the same thing. The 6x47 has more cost in dies and brass they can be tough to find. The 243AI, 6mm or 6mmAI in a fast (8) twist would be a great choice. More HP than the others.

There are also some other 6mm variants, such as the 6XC, 6BRDX, etc. that are being used by long range guys. Again, you get into the more expensive die and brass issues.
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Re: long range groundhog rifle

Great point, I already have dies ans brass for a 243, that would be a cheap way to go. How much benefit is the 243 ai over the 243 win?
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Great point, I already have dies ans brass for a 243, that would be a cheap way to go. How much benefit is the 243 ai over the 243 win?
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Re: long range groundhog rifle

Couple extra fps. Probably not noticeable out to 600. Go straight 243, get good Lapua brass and match quality bullets and you're good to go. For live varmints the 87vmax is tough to beat. My 243 shoots them under 3" @ 500m. Have a bud with TONS of pd kills OVER 1000yds with these bullets also.

Also check out Criterion barrels. They have Savage pre-fit match quality barrels that get great reviews.
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Yeah sounds like straight 243 is the way to go.

Its hard toat! Ill check out the 87 gr vma
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Re: long range groundhog rifle

Justin you stated you want to shoot out to 1000 yards the 6x47 lapua and 6 dasher would be a better choice than the .243 less powder and better accuracy. Also I think the .243 AI would get more than a couple of feet per second more than the .243. If you only want to shoot out to 600 yards a straight 6mm br would be perfect.

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Re: long range groundhog rifle

Couple, meaning 100-200 fps at the expense of more powder, less barrel life. Theoeretically, yes the Dasher and 6x47 will be more accurate and last longer. But a match chambered criterion barrel in 243 will be tough to tell the difference.
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