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CWD may be transmittable through eating game meat

Check this out. This is not good news...

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I have a question about this from the article:

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The experiment led by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency resulted in transmission of CWD from cervid (moose, deer and elk) meat to primates — cynomolgus macaques monkeys. The monkeys were infected by both an injection into the brain and by CWD-infected muscle fed into the stomach via a tube.
i can understand the CWD injection. they just took the CWD and injected it into the brain, those results were a No-Brainer, it was going to happen.

BUT...the CWD infected muscle has me concerned. was it from an animal that died from CWD or did they inject CWD into the muscle and then into the stomach tube. if that was the procedure it certainly IS NOT SCIENTIFIC as there is no way to know if CWD is in the muscle of an infected animal or the exact amount of CWD in the muscle of an infected animal.

This test is suspect, at least to me. anyway, i don't plan on eating venison from any CWD positive animal.
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I have a question about this from the article:

i can understand the CWD injection. they just took the CWD and injected it into the brain, those results were a No-Brainer, it was going to happen.

BUT...the CWD infected muscle has me concerned. was it from an animal that died from CWD or did they inject CWD into the muscle and then into the stomach tube. if that was the procedure it certainly IS NOT SCIENTIFIC as there is no way to know if CWD is in the muscle of an infected animal or the exact amount of CWD in the muscle of an infected animal.

This test is suspect, at least to me. anyway, i don't plan on eating venison from any CWD positive animal.

I share your concern, bohunr. As written, the article leads to more questions than answers. Not suggesting that we should sound the alarm bell based solely on this research, but if it can be replicated and then is subsequently peer reviewed, it might be time to sit up and take notice.
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CWD was first detected in NY State in 2005. After people attended a game dinner it was discovered that a deer purchased from a local game farm was infected. The health of the people that attended that dinner has been monitored and no bad effects have been noted. I feel those results are more realistic than the results of a test where somebody shot a hypodermic full of CWD directly into the brain of a monkey in Canada.
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CWD was first detected in NY State in 2005. After people attended a game dinner it was discovered that a deer purchased from a local game farm was infected. The health of the people that attended that dinner has been monitored and no bad effects have been noted. I feel those results are more realistic than the results of a test where somebody shot a hypodermic full of CWD directly into the brain of a monkey in Canada.
It would be helpful to know how much CWD-infected meat the monkeys consumed during the study. People regularly consume salmon and tuna with traces of mercury in it, but few people end up with mercury poisoning. I know, I know, apples and oranges. But the point is that the amount of infected meat that was consumed by the primates may have been well beyond what is considered to be a "realistic" amount by all reasonable standards.
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not to go off topic but regarding the mercury issue in fish. every fish in PA has a consumption advisory except yellow perch, eat all you want, gotta wonder why ?

are they immune to contaminants ?....NOPE but it would hurt fish frys and restaurant sales.
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From Michigan DNR

Impacts of CWD
Hunters are reminded that there is no known health risk to humans from CWD; however, it is recommended that a positive CWD deer not be consumed. CWD can spread through the deer herd and there is no treatment or recovery. Established CWD could significantly reduce the number of deer in Michigan and/or significantly depress older age classes, especially mature bucks. Hunter help is critical to the future of Michiganís cervids

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This is old news to an extent. First actual study I read about, but IIRC two hunters came down with Creutzfeld-Jacobs disease a time (like a couple years) after eating at a game dinner out in the mid west some where in the upper midwest.

This from the NIH fact sheet on CJD in 2003: "The appearance of the new variant of CJD (nv-CJD or v-CJD) in several younger than average people in Great Britain and France has led to concern that BSE may be transmitted to humans through consumption of contaminated beef. Although laboratory tests have shown a strong similarity between the prions causing BSE and v-CJD, there is no direct proof to support this theory."

Note, even though they said there is no proof, folks who spent time in countries with BSE are not permitted to donate blood in the US. MMMMM?

and this:
Tests on mice found a link between the infectious agent behind scrapie with sporadic CJD (sCJD), a fatal human disease whose cause has never been known. The scientists stress they have no proof that eating mutton or lamb infected with scrapie can lead to sCJD in humans.Dec 17, 2014
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CWD was first detected in NY State in 2005. After people attended a game dinner it was discovered that a deer purchased from a local game farm was infected. The health of the people that attended that dinner has been monitored and no bad effects have been noted. I feel those results are more realistic than the results of a test where somebody shot a hypodermic full of CWD directly into the brain of a monkey in Canada.
Hopefully, these people are still being monitored. the incubation period could be very long, for all we know.
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