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Susquehanna Branch QDMA Chestnut tree sale

For all you guys/gals who are interested in habitat management or just want to add a few trees to your property, our QDMA Branch is having our annual Dunstan Chestnut Tree sale. These trees are great nut producers and are blight resistant. Game and non-game species love the nuts and they can be used for baking, etc in your favorite recipes that call for chestnuts.




SUSQUEHANNA BRANCH OF THE QDMA
DUNSTAN CHESTNUT TREE SALE

$18.25 PER TREE SEEDLING
18 TO 36 INCH, 1 YEAR OLD BARE ROOTED SEEDLING

***Limited Supply This Year***
DEADLINE FOR ORDER/PAYMENT: MARCH 21, 2015
Orders and payments can be given to Bob Wagner 570-278-1011 ext. 108
Matt Sellers 570-533-1145 or Denise 570-533-3693
Mail orders to
QDMA, Susquehanna Branch, PO Box 454, Montrose, PA 18801

Details and description from the Realtree Nursery, Chestnut Hill Outdoors - Dunstan Chestnuts are the best and most widely planted chestnut varieties in America - they combine the excellent nut quality and tree form of the American Chestnut with the blight resistance of Chinese Chestnut. There has never been an instance of Dunstan Chestnuts dying from the blight, and they have been grown successfully from Maine and New York, west to Illinois and Wisconsin, and south to east Texas and Florida.

Dunstan Chestnuts are the best tree for deer and wildlife. They produce heavy annual crops (never skipping a year like oaks) of very large, sweet tasting (no tannin) nuts that average 20-35/lb, and can produce 10-20 lbs/tree after 10 years, and as much as 40 lbs/tree at maturity. Trees begin to bear in only 2-4 years. They are easy to grow and thrive in a variety of locations. Plant at least 2 trees for pollination, but production is better with increased quantities planted together.
Height: 60-80', Spread: 30-40', Flowers: Showy catkins, Pollination: Need a minimum of 2 trees. Bloom season: May, Bears: Sep-Oct, Light requirements: Full sun, Soil type: Well-drained pH 5.5-7.0. Pruning: Central leader. Maintenance: Easy. Hardiness Zone: 4-9

We will not be shipping trees. All Trees will need to be picked up at Matt Sellers,
5059 Meshoppen Creek Road, Montrose Pa. 18801.
Please be sure to include your phone # and email so we can contact you if needed. Unless prior arrangements are made, all trees that are not picked up at the previously given address on Sat 4/18/2015 will become property of QDMA Susquehanna Branch.
*** tree pickup date is Saturday, April 18, 2015 ***
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NAME: __________________________________________________ _________


PHONE: _____________________ EMAIL: ____________________________


# OF TREES: _______ X $18.25


# TREE TUBE: _______ X $4.00 STAKES: ______ X $1.75
(optional but recommended)

TOTAL AMOUNT: $ _________________

Please make checks payable to the QDMA Susquehanna Branch. Thank you!

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Got 10 last year. Have to see how many I need this year. They almost grew out of the tubes the first year.
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Not a bad tree but you are paying a huge premium for the Dunstan and Realtree brandnames. $18 for a 1 year old hybrid chinese/American seedling is crazy. Shop around and you'll find more affordable seedlings without the marketing costs. $5 a tree at www.empirechestnut.com. badgersett.com oikostreecrops.com. Any chestnut seedling is great for wildlife.

It is also unlikely any Dunstan will reach 80ft tall. With so much chinese in them, 40 to 60ft is more realistic.
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They are proven trees with many generations planted. They've been developed since the 1940's. I'll stick with what works. You get what you pay for and I'll use Dunstan and have production in a few years.

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All you are paying for is their marketing. Any Chinese or Chinese/American hybrid will produce for you. Nothing magic about the Dunstan trademark.
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Guess we will agree to disagree.

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Got 10 last year. Have to see how many I need this year. They almost grew out of the tubes the first year.
John, they are excellent trees. When done properly they will easily grow 2'+ per year. As with any tree, when you stake/tube them to protect them from rodents and rubbing and you fence them too to keep the deer from eating the tops, and you control weed competition (I use landscape fabric and spraying) then they will grow very quickly and be healthy enough to withstand deer browse. We do that with all the trees we plant, not just the chestnuts.

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Our Branch will sell anywhere from 1200 to 1500 trees in our sale.

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This might be a fundraiser for you so I apologize for raining on the parade. But Dunstan are completely a "deer on the bag" product. They are not a bad tree, just ridiculously overpriced. If you are willing to spend that amount, consider spending a little more and try grafted AU Buck III and IV trees. The AU Buck IV cultivar is supposed to start dropping chestnuts in mid-October and could hold nuts into November. These are newly available on the market and I've not seen any grower reports to know what they will do in Northern PA.

People should understand what a Dunstan seedling is before paying that price. It is mostly large nut chinese cultivars that were crossed with an american chestnut. Dr. Dunstan developed them to have large nuts for the commercial sale. I am sure Dr. Dunstan hoped these could take the place of the American chestnut but even those that have a timber form are too short to compete against native oaks. You might have heard Dunstans are patented but your seedlings have nothing to do with the trees they patented. Since these are seedlings, each tree has a different mix of chinese and american genetics. Some will have larger nuts, some smaller, precocity and vigor will vary, some might be timber-like to about 50 or 60ft tall and most will have a shorter, spreading chinese form. A Dunstan seedling might drop nuts in late August or maybe in October. Basically, you just know that you should get fewer, larger nuts. You will know what individual trees are like in 10 years or so.

The variability of seedlings is a plus if you plant enough trees, maybe on on 10 or 12ft centers. That gives you more early production and you can thin later to your top producers at 30 or 40ft spacing. It takes a lot of trees to plant at those densities and you cut down most of the trees by maturity. I'm not sure how many people will want to cut down most of their expensive Dunstans so most people would be better off buying cheaper chinese or chinese/american hybrids seedlings, planting them closer, and thinning over time. It is hard to argue that 1 tree is better than 3 or 5 or 10. If you shopped around, you could buy a 1000 chinese seedlings for a buck a piece or less. No, you won't be able to brag you planted the same trees that Realtree plugs on TV but you'd feed a whole lot more animals.

If you just have to plant Dunstan seedlings, plant them on 40ft centers and find cheap sources of other chestnut, Allegheny chinkapin and hazelnuts to fill up all the space in between. Those will give you lots of production while the Dunstans get going and eventually touch canopies in 20-30 years.
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Depending where I'm planting, I will plant my Dunstans on 30' centers. We plant a great variety of trees here and in most cases we have either oats, clover, chickory, etc or NWSG/forbs planted around the trees. Of course we use fiber mats and the occasional herbicide to prevent weed encroachment. Also, no matter what species of tree we plant, we pretty much use tubes/stakes and fence to keep the critters away. It's also imperative to water the trees every week during the growing season unless we have a week of heavy rain.

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