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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 12-20-2011, 05:29 PM Thread Starter
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New Brass

How do you treat new unfired, unprimed brass, do you run it through resizing dies, trim or just prime and load?

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Re: New Brass

Well you have hit on another of the hotly disputed gun forum debates, some will say yes others no. I am of the until it has been fire formed to the rifle it will be used in why add another step, others have there reasons for sizing before the first loading, it just boils down to who you want to believe.
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Re: New Brass

Thanks for the reply, I didn't mean to stir the pot.

I talked to a couple guys and they too had mixed feelings so I wanted to get some thoughts from guys who have a lot more experience reloading than I do.

BTW the rounds will be used in a bolt action rifle, 7mm-08.

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Re: New Brass

It depends upon the MFG of the brass. If it's Rem or Win brass, those will require a little more work. If it's Lapua or Norma, those are the top of the line (and your wallet will know that) and require very little initial work.

Also, with the better line of brass if you have a caliber that is hard on brass (such as the 6.5 x 55 Swede) the better brass will last longer...and actually cost less per load when you do the math, because you will get more loads out of each piece of brass.

But...back to the subject. Win and Rem brass for rifles I will always size and trim and chamfer on the "first date." These lesser quality brass's are no where near the consistency of the higher priced ones. The necks on a percentage of them will not be square so trimming 'em on the first time will save you doing it on the second time.

For Norma or Lapua I will still do a quick trim and chamfer. Those I usually don't size because they simply don't need it.

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Re: New Brass

I now just deburr and load. I useta size but seem's a waste of time after some thought....later
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Re: New Brass

I run up in die for 2 reasons, most of the brass the mouth might be a little off so that gets fixed. Second most of my guns are wildcats so normally im necking down but a factory chambering cant see why you would full length. I square primer pockets, de burr flash hole, and chamfer inside and out. Now we are ready to start drag racing bullets.
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Re: New Brass

I will give them the whole 9 yards if needed...

With Remington and Winchester brass, you may get necks that are not round, not to mention they almost 100% always need deburred and chamfered. I have seen Winny and Remington brass scrape copper right off the side of a bullet when seating a new pill into the case, and this was with new brass right out of a bag. That fella doesn't miss deburring anymore on his new brass

Not to mention runout... especially with lower end brass.

With Norma, Lapua or Nosler, not so much work is needed IMO.

I will always check headspace... what happens if a new piece of brass doesn't chamber because the shoulder wasn't bumped back? I have seen it on new brass with some rifles with tight chambers. Not very common to see this, but load for enough rifles and handle enough brass over time, you'll see it. I'll check a few out of a new batch of brass to double check. 95% of the time it's always a green light, but I have had new brass that was larger than my chamber dimensions already. Saw it in a Model 7 7mm-08 and a Model 70 .270.

I deburr flash holes and uniform primer pockets on all new brass. Some brass, such as Norma, Nosler and Lapua rarely need flash hole deburring, but I still check it. They all get uniformed primer pockets right out of the gates. These two steps only need done once of course.

They get trimmed...

And that's just for the hunting rifles. Let's not get into the match/target guns. That's a whole 'nother can 'o wormys...

I try to stick with Lapua, Norma and Nosler when I can, in that order.

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Re: New Brass

Nosler brass also needs little or no prep....
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Thanks to everyone for their imput.

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Re: New Brass

I am of the other school, have never had any problems with Rem or WW brass. Perhaps luck but have been using both for many years. I did run into some WW 6mm brass with small primer holes.

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