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post #1 of 41 (permalink) Old 01-22-2019, 11:23 AM Thread Starter
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New to reloading and having some issues

i am very new to reloading and I am having some issues.


I bought the Hornady Classic Reloading kit... I am trying to reload for my .17 hornet and I am having some issues.. my first issue - my reloads would not feed in the CZ clip.. the length is fine, it seems like the back of the bullet is catching the back of the clip and but the front is coming up, as soon as a touch the clip release button on the gun the back of the bullet will slide up in the clip..


second and this just started, I am starting to get dents or almost hairline cracks just before the shoulder. I cleaned my dies and use very little lube still did it, I cleaned again then used one shot only and it is still doing it. not sure what I am doing.


if anyone can give my some suggestions to try I would appreciate it.


Thank you in advance.
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Does the die touch the shell holder when you resize?

What brand of brass, I have found federal or hornady brass size better than most seems like the brass is softer.

can you post a pic of the dents and crack?

Dents usually are the result of to much lube on the shoulder of the brass.

Please post a pic.

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I can try to post a pic tonight when I get home.. i am using hornady brass and yes the die is touching the shell holder. i am using very little lube and none when i tried the Hornady One Shot
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The small calibers are tough to start on, I know for me that I had more difficulties working up loads for my 204 than any other caliber that I reload for. Try not to get any lube what so ever on the shoulder or neck of case. If it is suspected that lube may be in that portion of the die, I would recommend disassembly and a thorough cleaning.
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Hornet cases are very thin and not as forgiving as others. Need to see your dent/cracks as normally they are the opposite of each other. A dent or bulge is caused by something pushing on something else, commonly lube buildup in the die or an unchamfered mouth pushed back by the bullet during seating. Cracks are almost always caused by excessive case stretching or being pulled causing case thinness.
Feeding issues usually aren't caused by reloading, the magazine is usually the culprit. Do factory loads feed and chamber? Reloading mistakes may cause difficulty chambering but not usually feeding.
Are your cases trimmed to SAAMI specs, if not the case mouth can contact the chamber? Are you chamfering the case mouth after trimming and even if you haven't trimmed yet, if not seating a bullet may push the neck back? Are you adequately lubing the inside of the neck so as not to be pulling the neck during resizing?

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all the bullets feed ok in the gun, they are not feeding out of the CZ clip.. the bullets seem to be catching the back of the clip and want to stand up straight but will come up when i touch the clip release button. factory loads feed through the clip with no problem. what i called a dent is more like a smudge and a hairline crack. i am not trimming because i am within specs. i am not chamfering because i thought you do that when you load the bullet not size it. also i failed to mention that i am getting the cracks during the resizing and depriming of the shell.
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I am trying to reload for my .17 hornet and I am having some issues.. my first issue - my reloads would not feed in the CZ clip.. the length is fine, it seems like the back of the bullet is catching the back of the clip and but the front is coming up, as soon as a touch the clip release button on the gun the back of the bullet will slide up in the clip..
By your description it sounds like you have a clip issue, not a reload issue? Does a factory round also hang up in the clip? Does the loaded cartridge chamber in the gun ok? If you dont have issues with chambering the cartridge, I would not start adjusting the sizing die.

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second and this just started, I am starting to get dents or almost hairline cracks just before the shoulder. I cleaned my dies and use very little lube still did it, I cleaned again then used one shot only and it is still doing it. not sure what I am doing.
Dents are from too much lube. I dont like using spray on lube because it is hard to control the amount being applied to the case. Try just spraying the lube on a cloth, then touch the tip of your finger and thumb in the lube. Just apply a film of lube from your finger tips to the case. You can use a plastic q-tip shaft to apply a film to the inside of the neck.

Cracks are most likely from the case becoming to hard. Brass becomes work hardened from use (firing and resizing). This can happen after one firing or multiple; just depends on chamber dimension, sizing die/expander dimension, case wall thickness. Cases can be annealed to remove the work hardening.

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I cant see the pic.

Good luck, Tony
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I can't get the pics to load. sorry.


I tried what you said and I am still getting cracks
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