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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-27-2018, 10:00 AM Thread Starter
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Reclaiming Lead at the Range?

I have just started to cast my own rounds for 9mm and was thinking about casting for my AR as well so I would have plenty of target rounds, seeing as the biggest reason i dont shoot as much as i want is the cost of ammo and time to reload. Well i have main streamed my reloading operation more with some better equipment but still finding a cheap price on the bullets themselves for just shooting can be a bit tricky so casting was a fun simple way to create less waste. My only problem is the lead for casting. If i have to buy brass so be it, that component is reusable but the lead you loose in shooting and recasting the simplest idea is to go to the range backstop and sift out the range scraps and melt it down my problem is the only range near me is a game commission range that online says it is in the lead reclaiming program. I have walked it and picked up some scraps but to get any amount i would need to sift. The range requires a permit or valid hunting license to shoot at. I couldnt find anywhere online that said you cant get the scraps though. Anyone have any info? I would plan on replacing the material right where i got it from and was planning on going when the range is empty i dont want to bother anyone.

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You are not allowed to dig lead out of the backstop on game lands ranges, you will catch a fine. When the PGC reclaims lead they sell it, and use the money to maintain the ranges. It is theft for you to do what you are planning to do. Section 135.6 of regulationson game lands:

It is unlawful to: (6) Remove or attempt to remove any manmade or natural object except wildlife and fish lawfully taken. Objects which may not be removed include animals, rocks, minerals, sand and historical or archaeological artifacts.

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That is what i wasnt sure about and their website is unclear well then that settles it im officially done with PGC ranges all together since mine has a very strict hours and magazine size limit makes shooting handguns and AR un enjoyable and is always crowded the only problem i have is i cant seem to fine any local ranges around to join guess its time to build a bullet trap.

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The information I posted is on the PGC website, you have to go to the law link, then either select title 59 for regulations or title 34 for law. People shooing large capacity magazines are the reason there is a limit on the number of rounds you may load. It would be a lot less enjoyable if you had to wait behind a couple of people shooting as fast as they can with their ARs and large capacity mags shooting up a case of ammo then leaving all the surplus brass lay on the ground and leave the mess behind. There is a reason for those regulations.

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WW, what if he went to a private range or a sportsmens club and got permission from the club to extract lead from backstops. is that legal?
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If he got permission from a private club, no problem. However I doubt that would happen because the price of lead has clubs reclaiming lead on their grounds for both target shooting and on trap ranges.

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WW....How do they reclaim shot at a trap range?
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WW....How do they reclaim shot at a trap range?
I believe they come in and skim off the surface layer of soil within the shot field. Then I assume that they use some sort of process to wash the dirt and trap the heavier materials(lead).

You can actually buy reclaimed shot for reloading shotgun shells.
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I was at the range today with my flinter. ALL ALONE on the 50 on the pistol range area. Along comes Mr. Tactical, dressed in 5.11 pants and polo, with a chest rig on. Goes to the 25, hangs a Transstar target, and away he goes. Mag dumped 3 30 rounders in 5.56. I waited for him to be down, and I had to ask him if that was fun and thanked him for the brass. Then I told him he was a idiot and against the range rules. He didn't care, and proceeded to put his ugly NY stock back on so he can cross the border and go home.


HENCE the rules! Its like a Bud commercial, "Thank you MR. NY Mag Dumper Tactical Dude".
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Brownie, what Marcus said. They have a machine that somehow lifts the sod removes the shot and puts it back down. A club with a heavy traffic trap range can make pretty good money when they reclaim lead.

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