For those of you that have a Winchester 94 or a Marlin 336 in 30-30 and reload for it, what powder do you use? What bullet? And if you have a chronograph what velocities are you getting out of a 20" bbl.? And what real life experiences do you see with the bullet you're using?
Years ago we used a Centrex bullet (sp?) 150 gr ahead of 30 gr of 3031. I shot quite a few groundhogs and deer with that load with great results. Currently I am loading 170 gr Hornady's aheead of 3031 but can't remember charge for sure, think 28 gr. Very accurate in 336 I owned.
I never chronographed my loads but I used IMR3031 30grs 170 gr bullet. Flat nose bullet type for tubular magazine.
One problem I can remember...these rounds should be crimped if used in a tubular magazine. Make sure the case length is the same for all resized cases. 30-30 brass stretches alot and if the case length are not the same you will cave in the shoulder if the seating die was set with a smaller case.
Unfortunately, I don't believe Winchester still publishes their loading data any longer....I always found their loads worked....I load 748 in my .30/30s straight from their published info...3031, as others have noted, is probably the most widely used powder...switched to 748 when I got tired of grinding 3031 through the measure....it's gotta be one of the worst to throw....
Funny you should ask just getting ready to load a batch since about 1980 I have shot this load in about 6 of my 30-30 and a few friends it has a few twist just about any case will work a Winchester lr primer and a Hornady 150 round nose or flat nose or a 150 Rem Round nose bulk bullet and some where between 25 to 27 grains of Reloader 7 my grandson shot 15 rounds yesterday at a 100yd that you could cover with a coke can round down to 10 rounds left need to load the 40 empties up
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3031 is a tough powder to beat in the 30-30. I shoot RL-7 in mine. I shoot RL-7 because I buy it in bulk for my 45-70's, and RL-7 is very close to 3031 on the powder burn rate chart. However it is normally a good bit cheaper than 3031, and it burns just as clean.
I definitely crimp my 30-30 cartridges.
I cast a 190 grain bullet for my 45-70. I beleive my velocity in your barrel would be right at or just under 1,800 fps. I use a FP designed bullet with a gas checked and sized bullet to .310. The bullet knocks the snot out of deer. And at that velocity range the recoil is not bad at all. But more than enough energy to do the job. Tom.
I've been trying to stay with IMR 4064 simply because I've got a pretty good stash of it. Just can't seem to get the results I want with it. Maybe I simply need to get a couple of cans of 3031 and start over. It seems to be the classic powder for the 30-30.
Any real life (chronographed) velocities out there?
While on the 30-30, I just tried to load 30-30 using Barnes Tipped TSX bullets. The polymer nose badly deformed. Tried Nosler BT thought maybe the Barnes was too soft, the Nosler also deformed but not as bad. Anybody have an answer to this problem?
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