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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-02-2010, 07:52 PM Thread Starter
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06 reload question

I have always shot 165 gr boattail at 2800fps. The load seems too much for my small framed son. Any advice for a lighter load with same bullet that will still be effective. Most shots are 50-80 yards.
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Re: 06 reload question

Tough Question. First you did not say what bullet. The exact bullet you are using is designed to expand or perform at certain velocities. So it would be impossible to tell you how low you could go with a bullet when you did not tell us which bullet.

Going down just a few hundred feet per second is not going to drop the felt recoil that much.

If you really want to drop the recoil then you will need to get down into the 16000-2000 fps range.

I am assuming you are trying to keep your costs down, and that is why you want to shoot the same bullet. But that may not be possible.

In order to save some money and keep recoil low I believe I would buy a couple of hundred cast bullets in the 170 grain range. If you keep them below 1700 or 1800 fps you could get away without gas checks. Go above that and you will need GC's.

I realize you are probably trying to save some money. But a 30-06 with cast bullets really is a very effective bullet, with low recoil.

If you really need to keep your costs down then advertise on a couple of forums that you want to buy 100 or 200 30 caliber cast bullets for your son to shoot. Somebody will help you out. Tom.
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Re: 06 reload question

Some one else posted this before it may help you. http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/Youth%20Loads.pdf

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post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-02-2010, 10:39 PM
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I have always shot 165 gr boattail at 2800fps. The load seems too much for my small framed son. Any advice for a lighter load with same bullet that will still be effective. Most shots are 50-80 yards.
My Son started out with the 130gr Hornady SP at @2400fps. He shot a buck smack in the middle of the shoulder at @100yds and the deer staggered for 25yds and fell over. He has since moved to full power 150gr loads but the deer aren't any deader!
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Re: 06 reload question

When my son was 12 years old I reloaded my 3006 down to 30/30 reloads... I used the reduced reload for the 150 grain 30/30 designated bullets (Speer) ..This is what you might want to do.. Make the reload a 30/30 reload not a 3006. by the way using this reload he killed an 8 point buck at 40 yards away.A heart shot...I even did what the book recommended and place a bit of pillow fiber in the case so the powder did not move in the case... The book said it was OK to do so I did it and it did not affect my 700 BDL.
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Re: 06 reload question

If the shot is going to be 50-80 yards the fps is not goimg to be an issue. remember he will only shoot good with a gun he is not scared of. sacrifice the fps to give him the confidence he needs when he sqeezes the trigger. for a 165 grain bullet you could load it down to 41.8 grains of IMR 4064 or 41.4 grains of varget to achieve 2400fps. if you wanted to reduce the bullet weight to a 150 grain bullet I would highly reccomend 44.1 grains of IMR4895.

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Re: 06 reload question

if you can afford it, you might want to invest in a smaller caliber rifle until he grows into the 06. this is what i did for my son when he hunted with me. try a 243 or 7mm-08 til he gets a little bigger. good luck.
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Re: 06 reload question

Savage Edge, Mossberg 4x4 or Marlin XS7. All guns can be bought brand new for under $350. When you say "small framed" do you mean small framed 12 year old or a mentor? How old is he an give us some dimensions on what you consider "small framed". 243, 7mm-08 or 25-06. Any of these calibers would be perfect for a youth yet large enough that he would never have to "up-grade" when he gets bigger.
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Re: 06 reload question

Load it down with a 125 Ballistic Tip, Sierra or a 130 Barnex TSX. Should make it fairly tolerable.
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Re: 06 reload question

I think a lighter bullet like recommended would be the best way to reduce recoil...but, I've never done it...

I just know in my flintlock, if I put a roundball over 90gr and a conical weighing more over the same 90gr, the conical recoil is greater...id imagine that applies to smokeless powder and metallic cartridges as well....a 125gr or so bullet loaded right should be fairly light recoiling....my 22/250 pushes 3800fps with a 50gr bullet...my 35 whelen pushes a 225gr bullet somewheres around 2500-2600fps....the wheln recoil is far greater....

My 308 and the whelen, both pump guns, shooting pretty close to the same velocity but the 308 shooting 150gr and the whelen 225gr, the whelen recoil is still much greater...

So I thiink dropping bullet weight is the way to go...
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