Re: No Deer scent
never had any luck with the "breaking scent" that you are supposed to hang on them. most of the time it smelled like wet hay and deer urine.
i have had luck with using the hock glands and putting them in a can with some cloth scraps or paper towel in the fridge. after they smell like deer put them on mouse traps and just place around where a puppy can get at them. if its a bigger dog use a rat trap.
if its a older dog that has gotten away with running deer its harder. then the ecollar is about the best bet. take them to a feild with deer in it and walk them out to the track. if they run light them up hard. if they are interested even a little tickle them some.
some dogs get it quick some never get it. i like to make sure they have a few good runs on the right game before i go to the collar. and some dogs will need reminded off and on through out there life esp. if you run them with other dogs that arent broke or your buddies dogs.
dogs are like teenagers. one good one alone is fine. 2 or more will probably get in trouble sooner or later. also never shock a dog unless you are 100% sure they are wrong and dont use the collar for obedience, nuisance barking, ect. around the same time frame your trash breaking or you will just have a confused dog.
i'm not an expert by any means but i've broke a few dogs and screwed a few up too. be very careful with the collar as just as many are ruined by it as broke and its a good idea to leave the collar on for a while before and after a session and also even when you think you have them broke its a good insurance policy to have one on when your hunting but be 100% sure before you use it.
i broke a beagle once with the mouse/rat trap method before i ever ran her. one night after she was well started i watched this big doe come bouncing down the trail whie she was running. she came right down the exact trail while i was watching. i didn't have a collar then so i grabbed a stick and was going end that --. i didnt get there fast enough but the doe had circled around when it saw me so i looped around and stood where i saw here go. the dog never made it to me because the rabbit she was running didnt follow the same trail. if i had gotten to that dog fast enough i probably would have ruined my first decent rabbit dog.
also had a coon dog that cost me a bit of money with porkys. so one night when he went treed and i got there and saw a porky about 20 feet up a tree i was pretty ticked to say the least. that hound was about to get an adjustment also when i remembered what i almost did to that beagle. another good look of the tree showed a small coon in a crotch about 15 feet above the porky. one of the hardest things i learned about breaking dogs is the same lesson you learn with your kids..... never correct/punish in anger.
also any dog i evre had that was worth anything would run a deer until it was taught not too.
Now your diggin' where the 'tators are!