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#2977613 - Thu Feb 28 2013 01:29 PM Spring gobbler 2014
DennyF Offline
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Posting this for Don Heckman:

2014 Spring Gobbler Season

2014 Spring Gobbler Season is proposed to start on Saturday, April 26 for 1 Day Youth Hunt, and Saturday, May 3 for Regular Season Start Date.

Spring Gobbler Season would run from May 3 to May 31.

Is May 3 too late to start the 2014 Spring Gobbler Season?

Should the Regular Season Start Date be April 26? or April 19?

If so, why?

Don Heckman...

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#2977627 - Thu Feb 28 2013 01:44 PM Re: Spring gobbler 2014 [Re: DennyF]
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Seems awful late to me, since we've had the late april opener for a while.

I'd like to see it start the 19th for the kids and 26th for the rest of us. Towards late May, it seem the birds are very tight-lipped as they exit the breeding season. I'd rather have my chances earlier at gobbling birds over ambushing a silent bird late in the season. I'm not overly concerned about getting a bird for myself, but I like having exciting footage when I'm hunting with someone else.

Regardless, whatever they decide the season is, that's when I'll be after them.
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#2977633 - Thu Feb 28 2013 01:50 PM Re: Spring gobbler 2014 [Re: DennyF]
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I'd be 100% in favor of an earlier start. from my experience of scouting every minute I can from March thru May the birds are much more active mid to late April in my neck of the woods. Besides that by the end of May activity is nearly non existant and silent birds are much more common.

Has a split start ever been considered?? The Northern Tier seems a couple of weeks behind the Southern counties as far as "green up" and gobbling activity in my experiences.
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#2977640 - Thu Feb 28 2013 01:58 PM Re: Spring gobbler 2014 [Re: NorthEast Cammer]
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Originally Posted By: BONZy
I'd be 100% in favor of an earlier start. from my experience of scouting every minute I can from March thru May the birds are much more active mid to late April in my neck of the woods. Besides that by the end of May activity is nearly non existant and silent birds are much more common.

Has a split start ever been considered?? The Northern Tier seems a couple of weeks behind the Southern counties as far as "green up" and gobbling activity in my experiences.


Been working that angle for years, Bonzy. I have been working for a earlier start for some time now. Especially in the sw and se parts of the state where the spring green up is far ahead of the rest of the state. I saw poults the first week and bachelor gobbler groups the second week with little interest in the call. This trend has been becoming more normal for close to a decade now in these parts.

The fall seasons are differing lengths. I don't see why we can't alter our starts or change them based on weather variances. Look at any spring planting guide for PA and you can see the contrasts.

When the weeds are thigh high and visibility is less,than 20 yards on the opener, Houston, we have a problem.
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#2977654 - Thu Feb 28 2013 02:16 PM Re: Spring gobbler 2014 [Re: DennyF]
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I can't think of a reason why, other than the birds would be more vocal & probably respond to calling more if the season started earlier, say the middle of April. My reasons are pretty much selfish. But I would certainly welcome it.
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#2977668 - Thu Feb 28 2013 02:34 PM Re: Spring gobbler 2014 [Re: DennyF]
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Birds won't be more responsive to calling with an earlier to start to the season. They aren't going to come investigate some hen calling when they have the real thing to breed right in front of them. Some of the best hunting I've had has been the last week of the season after all the breeding has been done. We have a strong turkey population because the hunting season takes place after the majority of the breeding has already been done.
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#2977673 - Thu Feb 28 2013 02:37 PM Re: Spring gobbler 2014 [Re: Uncle Nicky]
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New york season always opens on May 1, even if it's a Sunday.lol No problem finding them up there. We also opened in May before.I myself like to work the more mature birds near the end of our season.

Like the last poster mentioned my reasons and many others are pretty much selfish. I believe though if you want to see a bigger harvest then yes, start youth and the regular Spring gobbler season (2) weeks earlier. JMO.
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#2977700 - Thu Feb 28 2013 03:03 PM Re: Spring gobbler 2014 [Re: bigbear]
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Originally Posted By: bigbear
Birds won't be more responsive to calling with an earlier to start to the season. They aren't going to come investigate some hen calling when they have the real thing to breed right in front of them. Some of the best hunting I've had has been the last week of the season after all the breeding has been done. We have a strong turkey population because the hunting season takes place after the majority of the breeding has already been done.


In the portion of Greene county amd Washington that I hunt, the majority of the breeding and laying is being done in April. Flocks are beginning to bust up and the gobblers transitioning back into summer patterns during opening week I saw poults the first week last year. It does seem that this is a trend that is occurring earlier and earlier.

I also realize that other parts of the state are vastly different. Here, thigh high weeds and almost full leaf out is common by the second week.
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#2977715 - Thu Feb 28 2013 03:11 PM Re: Spring gobbler 2014 [Re: bigbear]
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Originally Posted By: bigbear
Birds won't be more responsive to calling with an earlier to start to the season. They aren't going to come investigate some hen calling when they have the real thing to breed right in front of them.


My experience hunting during our youth season & out-of-state where seasons start earlier tells me something different. smile
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#2977725 - Thu Feb 28 2013 03:22 PM Re: Spring gobbler 2014 [Re: Uncle Nicky]
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I prefer the earlier start. I hear more gobblers then and they come in during the earlier start across the river in OH.

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