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#2350500 - Sat Sep 10 2011 08:34 PM 36 Cal Percussion Squirrel Guns
uncle buck Offline
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I purchased a 36 cal Percussion composite Squirrel gun a long time ago... I tried to shoot it once with Pyrodex and the thing wouldn't fire for me... I brought it home, soaked the barrel, and pulled the ball... I have yet to shoot it yet with regular black powder but I will get around to it someday...Do they now make any sabots for these 36 caliber guns now? At the time it was all round ball that all they had for you to use.. I think the gun is a CVA and was not expensive at all.. They were also selling one equal to the 36 Cal in 50 cal for deer hunters too.. Probably the first time they ever came out with a composite or plastic stock for percussion rifles...
Anyone use a 36 cal for small game???I just did a inquiry it was a CVA Bobcat 36 cal.


Edited by uncle buck (Sat Sep 10 2011 08:37 PM)

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#2350579 - Sat Sep 10 2011 09:17 PM Re: 36 Cal Percussion Squirrel Guns [Re: uncle buck]
zimmerstutzen Offline
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don't know about sabots, but the 36 at black powder speeds, a sabot doesn't offer much benefit. Maxi Ball molds were available, don't know if they still are. Nothing wrong with a 36 round ball for small game and wood chucks.

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#2350669 - Sat Sep 10 2011 10:27 PM Re: 36 Cal Percussion Squirrel Guns [Re: zimmerstutzen]
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I believe they made a sabot for the 36 caliber rifle. But I have neveer seen one. But it would be nice.

I shoot PRB's out of mine. But I also have a bullet mold for a conical for my 36 caliber rifle. I have not hunted any deer with that conical(yet). But I would have no problem taking it deer hunting for shots out to 50 yards with a 50 grain charge of 3F BP and one of those conicals that I cast for it. I think it would be very effective to 50 yards. Heck that conical weighs more than a 50 caliber roundball, and 50 grains of 3F is a fairly good load of powder for shots to 50 yards. And pure lead would expand very well. I would in no way feel undergunned.

My 36 caliber is a custom made Southern Mountain Rifle (or Poor Boy). In a left hand percussion with walnut. Tom.


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#2350853 - Sun Sep 11 2011 08:23 AM Re: 36 Cal Percussion Squirrel Guns [Re: HOGGHEAD]
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That is a fine lookin' rifle, Hogghead! What length barrel does it have? And, it's reassuring to see fine rifles with their locks on the correct side! \:\)
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#2350929 - Sun Sep 11 2011 09:36 AM Re: 36 Cal Percussion Squirrel Guns [Re: BerksCoflinter]
mountainman09 Offline
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i agreee with berks lock on the correct side
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#2351449 - Sun Sep 11 2011 05:26 PM Re: 36 Cal Percussion Squirrel Guns [Re: mountainman09]
uncle buck Offline
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What would cause the Pyrodex not go off in the percussion rifle? This is the only percussion rifle I own so just not familar with them.
Nice to know that the 36 caliber would be OK for chucks.. Now that would be something to do.. Shoot chucks with a black powder rifle. Again not messing with the pyrodex anymore in this 36 Cal. Going to use only the regular Black powder..
Thanks for all the comments todate.. I appreciate it..

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#2351887 - Sun Sep 11 2011 09:48 PM Re: 36 Cal Percussion Squirrel Guns [Re: BerksCoflinter]
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 Originally Posted By: BerksCoflinter
That is a fine lookin' rifle, Hogghead! What length barrel does it have? And, it's reassuring to see fine rifles with their locks on the correct side! \:\)



I never meaasured the barrel. I would guess it is somewhere between 38" to 42". I bought the rifle used a few years back from a fellow by the name of Jim Chambers. I don't know if you have heard of him, but he has an impeccable reputation. He said the rifle was GTG, so that was all I needed to hear. And he was right. I can consistently hit my 2-1/2" gong at 50 yards off handed about every shot with this rifle. It is a shooter. Tom.

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#2351920 - Sun Sep 11 2011 10:13 PM Re: 36 Cal Percussion Squirrel Guns [Re: HOGGHEAD]
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Pyrodex is harder to ignite then black powder..Convert the gun to musket caps or 209 primers then it will fire more regularly..

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#2351970 - Sun Sep 11 2011 10:42 PM Re: 36 Cal Percussion Squirrel Guns [Re: burk313]
zimmerstutzen Offline
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Uncle Buck, if you have a CVA Squirrel rifle built on the bobcat stock and lock, it has a drum and nipple system that creates a rather convoluted flash channel. The flame from the cap goes down the nipple and makes a right turn through the hollow drum and into a small chamber at the back of the breech plug. That's a space of almost 3/4 inch until it gets to the main charge. If there is any fouling or blockage in that flash channel, there is even more chance of misfires. This shows a cutaway of the CVA percussion breech system



It is necessary to keep this channel as open as possible. AND to get the powder as far down the flash channel as possible to ensure ignition. For instance, after dumping the powder down the bore, give the gun a couple smacks on the side with your hand to help settle powder into the flash channel.

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#2352009 - Sun Sep 11 2011 11:21 PM Re: 36 Cal Percussion Squirrel Guns [Re: HOGGHEAD]
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If it was made by Jim Chambers, it is bound to be a shooter! Have a great season!
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