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#1409922 - Thu Oct 29 2009 04:29 PM DUI Law changes / some might get gun rights back..
karl_rominger Offline
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The Supreme Court of Pennsylvania has changed the rules, retroactively, and if you were sentenced to a 2nd or subsequent offense DUI, because you had PLEAD OR BEEN FOUND GUILTY OF ANOTHER DUI, and the second or subsequent DUI happened before your were CONVICTED of the other DUI, you maybe entitled to be re-sentenced...

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN

It means your two or five year tail on your sentence might be illegal! Your probation might be ended sooner, and if you were sentenced on an M-1 (Misdemeanor One DUI) you might even be able to get your gun rights back!!



Edited by Bluetick (Thu Oct 29 2009 08:55 PM)
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#1410751 - Thu Oct 29 2009 10:31 PM Re: DUI Law changes / some might get gun rights back.. [Re: karl_rominger]
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Lets give all the drunks guns back! That is a logical thing to do!
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#1410758 - Thu Oct 29 2009 10:35 PM Re: DUI Law changes / some might get gun rights back.. [Re: duckman76]
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hahaha YEAH!
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#1410785 - Thu Oct 29 2009 10:51 PM Re: DUI Law changes / some might get gun rights back.. [Re: duckman76]
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 Originally Posted By: duckman76
Lets give all the drunks guns back! That is a logical thing to do!


Easy to throw stones when you live in a glass house isnt it?
I have never been arrested for any crime at all but I surely wouldnt wish someone to lose their gun rights for a none violent crime or one that didnt involve a gun.

Just wondering if youve ever made a mistake in your life?


Edited by Lifes2Fun (Thu Oct 29 2009 10:52 PM)
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#1410807 - Thu Oct 29 2009 11:05 PM Re: DUI Law changes / some might get gun rights back.. [Re: Lifes2Fun]
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Agreed! I get tired of all the self righteous ......... on this board. Must be progressive Democrats. Love your avatar!

Thanks for posting Karl.
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#1410837 - Thu Oct 29 2009 11:21 PM Re: DUI Law changes / some might get gun rights back.. [Re: duckman76]
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 Originally Posted By: duckman76
Lets give all the drunks guns back! That is a logical thing to do!


When I was younger and dumber, I got a DUI, thank GOD I never killed anyone, since then I haven't had a drink, and I attend AA mettings. I guess by your "standards", I should never hunt or shoot again.

Grow up.
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#1410850 - Thu Oct 29 2009 11:30 PM Re: DUI Law changes / some might get gun rights back.. [Re: puma4440]
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FYI yes I have made a mistake and I paid the price for it! What he was saying is that mutiple offenders should get their guns back if the have been busted again before they go to trial for the first one. You can call it bad luck or a serious problem, I see it as a problem!
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#1410861 - Thu Oct 29 2009 11:38 PM Re: DUI Law changes / some might get gun rights back.. [Re: duckman76]
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The problem I see is that too many people are quick to toss people under the bus for their rights....now had the individuals been dui while shooting guns in the air...sure....take em..dont ever give them back.

but someone who has a drinking problem should lose their gun rights? Their drivers license...sure but what does one have to do with other?


Edited by Lifes2Fun (Thu Oct 29 2009 11:39 PM)
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#1411273 - Fri Oct 30 2009 09:32 AM Re: DUI Law changes / some might get gun rights back.. [Re: Lifes2Fun]
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There are all kinds of situations and all manner of excuses, some good and some outright stupid.

for instance, a woman here took cold medicine on top her pain meds, and her son needed to be picked up from work, She weaved cop pulled her over and she was busted for dui on drugs. Dui on drugs doesn't even require that they be illegal or prescription drugs. Some times there really are extenuating circumstances. Such as secretly spiking some one's soda, etc. (rare but happens) Accidentally taking the wrong pill, or forgetting you already took your morning meds and taking another can get you into a boat load of problems.

I have no problem with taking guns away from habitual drunks and other serious offenders. Sometimes, however, the guy loses his rights over a a BS charge, which arises more from wrong place and time than anything else. I was once at a public sale here in York County and some old veterinary equipment came up for sale, including the vets leather bag. Inside the bag were a few dozen vials of powder. One marked "cocaine" Now, should the old lady, (daughter of the long deceased vet) have beeen charged with possession, should the auctioneer have been charged with selling a controlled substance? Because of the really ancient syringes and needles should someone have been charged with possession of paraphenalia. You want to lose your right to firearm ownership because of something that has been in a trunk in the attic for 75 years?

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#1411365 - Fri Oct 30 2009 10:12 AM Re: DUI Law changes / some might get gun rights back.. [Re: zimmerstutzen]
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Amen. Some states are now restricting all OTC medications that contain pseudoephedrine. That would be most common cold and flu remedies, BTW. It is an attempt to limit the amount anyone can buy, because of abuse in illegal meth labs, etc.

Read an account a few weeks ago, of a granny whose home was raided by the police because she'd picked up some flu meds for her hubby, then a day or two later, picked up some more for her daughter who was also sick.

Drug store reported the purchases as required by law, cops raided her home, took her away in cuffs.

Last I'd read, the DA said he was not making an exception in her case, "because she'd broken the law" on making too many purchases of products containing pseudoephedrines.

Here 'tis for the nonbelievers:

http://www.tribstar.com/local/local_story_246225916.html


Edited by DennyF (Fri Oct 30 2009 10:20 AM)
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