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post #41 of 52 (permalink) Old 02-16-2017, 07:48 PM
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I'm not saying all of them are baiting, just this one particular crew he said that is baiting. Now the crew of dcnr guys, I have no doubt there #'s are legit in archery season. Like you said, they are in the woods 24/7 and know the mountains in the area better than anybody.
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post #42 of 52 (permalink) Old 02-18-2017, 11:06 AM
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bear archery in buck rut wmu2g clinton county

We have to live with early oct muzz season for doe.This causes the Bucks to leave area or become noc-turnal..It takes 5/10 days for Buck to maybe get back to normal or return to area..With archery bear crews driving it will upset the rut week ..The local crews in clinton county they cover a lot of territory for bear with crews of 25 members..

Mor pressure on Bucks more noc-turnal they wil get i see it now with just the oct muzz week road hunters have everything spooked so bad deer do not move until after dark.Now add in this driving for bear archery before rut I DO NOT like it at all...
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Don't the bowhunters already have a week for bear? I don't bear hunt so I'm only asking why another, and earlier, week? I also believe that the state would like everybody to quit rifle and take up bow.
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We have to live with early oct muzz season for doe.This causes the Bucks to leave area or become noc-turnal..It takes 5/10 days for Buck to maybe get back to normal or return to area..With archery bear crews driving it will upset the rut week ..The local crews in clinton county they cover a lot of territory for bear with crews of 25 members..

Mor pressure on Bucks more noc-turnal they wil get i see it now with just the oct muzz week road hunters have everything spooked so bad deer do not move until after dark.Now add in this driving for bear archery before rut I DO NOT like it at all...


And those squirrel and grouse hunters too... Only archery deer hunters should be allowed in the woods. Yeah, right...
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And those squirrel and grouse hunters too... Only archery deer hunters should be allowed in the woods. Yeah, right...
small game hunters do not drive ..They do not spook the Buck at all but gangs driving do..I have no problem with grouse hunter I am one and if i see archery hunter I go to another spot....GANGS driving for archery bear will cause bucks to become noc-turnal or move out of area....
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Don't the bowhunters already have a week for bear? I don't bear hunt so I'm only asking why another, and earlier, week? I also believe that the state would like everybody to quit rifle and take up bow.
YES bear archery hunters have week after deer archery ..IT SHOULD STAY THAT WAY...Driving hurts your chance if you hunt alone to pattern a Buck that last week of archery deer ..Having crews driving week before rut will upset things badly...The early muzz week screws up our hunting badly in archery with crews driving for doe and road hunter after road hunter riding roads....
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I suppose archery bear could end and the muzzy week moved to end the pain. Give bear to muzzy, add buck, and place that season in the vacated archery bear week.
Leave archery bear week as is and move oct muzz doe week to archery bear week ...That would be great for archery deer hunters.....
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post #48 of 52 (permalink) Old 02-27-2017, 09:57 PM
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I do not really care when the season is but it`s not hard to see we have plenty of bear and more need killed.I don`t think the kill numbers will change much because that time of year guys are mostly going to set up for buck not bear.I do think they will sell more bear stamps just because the guys hunting deer know a bear might come by.So in the end they will make more money.
I think they honestly want to increase the bear harvest but are afraid if they go for say a 2 week gun harvest they will kill off to many. This is a small change that is likely to increase the harvest by 200 to 300. If there is a bumper bear rifle harvest they won't exceed the 4k to 4500k that they need to keep the numbers where they are. Agree most won't go setup for bear. I know I won't be, if I haven't got a buck yet I will be in a spot which gives me the best chance for a buck, and a bear will be a target of opportunity.
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then they should stop moving into the country, stay in the city.
Bears eat more fawns than coyotes. I really believe the sharp increase in bear numbers has helped with the declining deer herd. I think the current number(between 20k and 22k) is about right.
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Some of these crews are doing well, but don't believe everything you hear, especially on kill numbers. The crew I'm somewhat familiar with know what they are doing. Most, if not all, are from the area, have hunted bear from the time they were kids, were taught by their dad's, uncles's, and grandfathers, know the areas like the back of there hands, know where the bears escape routes are, and a lot of them work and live in the woods year round.They also cover a lot, and I mean a lot of territory when hunting, the better part of 2G to be specific, the kills are not in one small area. I don't care what a DCNR ranger said, as for them baiting, I doubt it, at lease with this crew, for reasons I'm not going in to. They are just very good at what they do, and that is hunting bear.
No doubt they are good at moving bears. I'm quite familiar with this group. My question isn't about baiting but when you are down to your last one or two tags how do they always get bears in front of those one or two weapons?
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