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Some habitat improvement pics.

Here's some work we've done at our place.

Enjoy.



Larger 82 tree apple orchard from ACN nursery.

Tress include:

Liberty
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Initial
Querina
Enterprise
Goldrush
Crimson Gold
Freedom



On the edges, we planted Dolgo Crabs, hazelnut, Allegheny Chinkapin and some Saul oaks.

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The trees in that field were planted in 2010.




Last year someone told me to pant clover between the trees and that's what we did.




More pear trees planted along edge of gas well road.



Pear trees were seedling from Howards Nursery(PGC sale) and have grown very well.




Down by our house.


Planted 33 various apple and pear trees from ACN around the house to add to the 7 mature apple trees already there.




Around the edges we planted Dolgo crabs, strawberry bush, mountain ash and Chinese Chestnut.




Here's the 1.3 acre pond by the house but it's still about 5 ft from being full. Has a small seep somewhere up top.





Also by the pond, we've planted various oaks to include Sawtooth, Dwarf Chinkapin, Red oak and a couple varieties of Okois hybrids.




The Dwarf Chinkapin seedlings from Superior trees were around $1 per seedling and have grown very well.


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Re: Some habitat improvement pics.

Here's another orchard behind the pond. Were already 10 mature apple trees we daylighted and quite a few very mature hawthorne. To this we added Arkansas Black, Keiffer pear, Whitney Chestnut crab and Chestnut crab. Entire area around pond is planted in a 5 clover mix.




Put in a couple miles of driveable trails.



Clearcut leaving oaks to reseed and also planted various crab seedlings.



There's multiple shelves going up the property.


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Re: Some habitat improvement pics.

Multiple stands of cherry. Big draw for deer come fall and good future timber value. Cut competition to help growth.



Bottoms border a creek and small swamp compromised of redbrush, alder, some arrowwood and various other plants I haven't identified but that haven't gotten heavily browsed.




3rd orchard on the bottoms which was day lighted. About 32 apple trees in all.



Added some clearcuts and planted pear, crab and apple seedlings and some dwarf chinkapin oaks. Picture only shows a fraction of the work area.



Multiple areas planted in American plum..




Open woods between clearcut areas. Very diverse timber including Hard and soft maple, cherry, ash, popular, white and red oak, hickory and beech.



Winding roads leading up hill.



To give you an idea of the slope between shelves.


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At the top of the property, intensive select timber harvesting was done on poorer growing sections. We opened up the forest floor and are getting thousands of seedlings along with black berry, red and black elderberry and more fruit shrubs I have yet to identify.





Another clearcut on top of property replanted with Chinese Chestnut and Dwarf Chinkapin along edges.



Plnted 18 Realtree Dunstan Chestnuts in 3 different spots where we could find roon.





Another clearcut planted with hundreds of spruce and white pine.



A little further down is another clear cut. Planted in Dwarf Chinkapin oak, Allegheny Chinkapin and Saul Oaks.



In this 10 acre area, we had larger oaks and we cut out the competition.




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Re: Some habitat improvement pics.

I absolultely love doing these small 1-3 acre clearcuts. This is what has been coming up in various openings.


















On the bottoms, we're getting hazlenuts and some type of blueberry coming up.




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Re: Some habitat improvement pics.

buddy, youre my hero. I recently finished read Aldo Leopld's book "For the Health of the land." (worth a read since you enjoy land management)

I would love to own property like that and manage it the way you did. How many acres do you own? Is this in crawford county? I love NW PA, especially when it has swamps.

Youre going to see some amazing animals on your property.
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Yep, Crawford County out near Sugar Lake. 182 acres.

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nice homestead.
I could play with that for the rest of my life.
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Re: Some habitat improvement pics.

Write me into the jealous crowd.

Have you entered into any screening cover around stand sites to limit the view of you entering? Any plans to do something like switchgrass?

What I say might not be the popular trend but at least Im not afraid to speak my mind!
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Same here. Man, that's just beautiful.

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Great Pics! You can add me to the jealous crowd. LOL. You have obviously invested a lot of hard work!

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Ha I got a post about a 3 acre lot to manage and you follow it with this 182 acre heaven. Add me to jealous list too.
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great job your one lucky pup!
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rrroae - that's some nice habitat work you got going on there. Kudos to you.

You must have a small fortune just in fencing and posts for all of those fruit trees! Do you have a cheap source that you can share with the rest of us? We usually end up spending more to the protect the seedling than we pay for the seedling itself.

It truly is amazing what springs up from the forest floor when you allow sunlight to get there. We just had our 45 acres logged, and the first year growth is crazy.

What future things do you have planned for your 182 acres of deer heaven?
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Re: Some habitat improvement pics.

Very nice.

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Fantastic photos and obviously a labor of love!

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You must have a small fortune just in fencing and posts for all of those fruit trees! Do you have a cheap source that you can share with the rest of us? We usually end up spending more to the protect the seedling than we pay for the seedling itself.
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What future things do you have planned for your 182 acres of deer heaven?

Yeah, didn't realize how costly the protection would be before we ordered the fruit trees or we wouldn't have bought so many.


Honestly if I were to do it all over again, I would forgo the fencing and instead get 3/4" caliper or bigger trees that were at least 6" out of the ground. I didn't fence the fruit trees in front of my house and only used the white 36" vinyl wrap and 8" tall bamboo stakes. The short fruit trees under 5' got decimated but anything taller was left alone.


This year will be planting some Mulberry trees and some giant burr oak I'm growing from acorns. Also getting an order of 50 fruit trees from Stark Brothers to fill in some of the lower orchards.




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Hey rroae, keep the pics coming. I love following your progress here and on the QDMA forums. If I'm ever out in that part of the state, do you think I could stop by and take a look, maybe get some ideas in person? I'm working with a much smaller property, but I'm always looking for inspiration. Basically all of my improvements have been copycated from the QDMA forums.

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Of course. It would be my pleasure.

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Very very nice! I live close to you, in fact I'm near Dempseytown so you're just a stones throw from me.
I'd love to see it in person some time!
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...Thanks rroae! I'm on the opposite side of the state, so I never get out that way, but if I ever do, I'll surely be making a stop. Thanks again for sharing, it really does help to see what improvements others are making.

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WOW!I can only imagine what your land will look like in 20 years!
Please make sure you include some blight resistant American Chestnut when they become available.

One of the best posts I've seen on HPA over the years, a job well done and something to be very proud of.

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Thanks for all the compliments fellas. I really didn't expect to do so much but it just sort of got addicting.


If anyone feels like stopping on by for ideas or just to browse, you're more than welcome. Just do me a favor and wait till spring.

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FLDBRED, I've been eyeing up those hybrid chestnuts for awhile now but I'll wait until the price is a bit more reasonable.

We had a beautiful American Chestnut growing until a bear decided to scratch it up for the nuts and then the blight over took it. This one made it to about 15".







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How fast has your under growth been after you thinned the timber or did the clear cuts? We just had our south facing ridge timbered pretty hard and some parts feel very open now that the leaves are gone.

The logging finished up in the early fall. Some of the early areas had pretty good poke berry growth so we are hopeful that next year it will explode with new growth. Our soil is a pretty good loam and the pH's have been tested between 6.0 and 6.2. We already have a bunch of evergreens and mast trees (oaks, chesnuts, crabapples, apples) planted with plans to put in a bunch more next spring.

We are hoping that the evergreens provide 12-month-a-year cover and thermal cover as well.
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Undergrowth has been tremendous. In some areas, over my head after a year. Others took a bit more time to fill in.



Here's one after less than a year.


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When we found this piece of land, it had an old farm house that hadn't been lived in for 25 years.


I posted some of these pics awhile back here.


Before and after shots.
















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Seems the work is starting to pay off with some these boys running around once in awhile.


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Here's some pics of building the pond. Still not sure if she'll end up filling up or not.


First, you need to doze off the topsoil.




For my pond, they used dozers and an earth mover. Doze, compact, doze, compact,...repeat every 6". Install overflow pipe.









Build up the dike. That's my wife in the pond for scale.






Add clay, roll and compact.



Add some rock, logs or pipe for fish structure.








Best to have a good water source.





Hopefully it will finish filling.


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Simply amazing what you have accomplished with the house and surrounding land. Place is beautiful!
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rrroae - thanks for the info on the new growth. We definitely need our ridge to get thicker in a hurry to hold some more deer.
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A couple miles of roads?! How much land do you have? I'm jealous!!
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I still think you should have some yellow perch for that pond.......

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Stunning!!! You are doing it right my friend . A lot of work but very rewarding.
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Appreciate all the comments fellas.

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How much land do you have there?!
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182 acres.

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jealous!!
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Hope that's just an expression(and I believe it was). My posts aren't made to make anyone envious but to help show what can be done. It's how I learned what to do and I hope my posts might help some other fellas get ideas what they want to do.

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RRR, I love these land tour threads you do, inspriational, educational and entertaining. My land work is alot smaller scale but i have certainly got ideas from you over the years. I tell my wife all the time when I retire (or hit the lottery) that is all i will do, work on my land..

Critters in your neck of the woods got to be thrilled that you got such a passion for it. I got a couple areas of trash trees I plan to do little 1-3 acre clearcuts in...time is the issue there but I can't wait. Did you leave the whole trees or take them for firewood and just leave the tops? Or were they timber trees?

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