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I just returned from a week in Maine and was shocked while reading their hunting regulations. They permit use of .22 mag. for deer. No .22 lr or .17 rimfires but say the mag is ok.

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Very early on in my hunting experience I saw a kid, hunting for the first time, shoot a deer with a 22mag. It was sickening. The deer was finally dispatched by hand and it was a pitiful site. That is way undergunned.
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Many deer have been taken using a 22MAG 1 shot with one hole between the eyes and one in a lower front leg.
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Years back I saw it done a couple times.Lung shots and average deer went aprox 50 yds.All 1 shot kills.In the hands of an expert it will do the job.

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Possible sure....would I do it? No.
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I have seen a .22 LR take care of them quickly, so I have no doubt a .22 mag would do the same. A properly placed shot is the key. I would not recommend it for a long range weapon, and I definately wouldn't chose it to go hunting with.

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Its called disrespect for the animal because it very rarely offers a quick humane kill.
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Most people are assuming that Maine hunters carry a 22 mag.I doubt that is the case.It's probably an old regulation that was never updated.How would you feel in almost deerless woods with a 22 mag when a Moose walked by you?Pretty stupid I would think.They probably carry an 06.

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I agree. I doubt anyone in the state is hunting with one for deer. It is similar to PA that the .220 swift is a legal round for deer since it is a centerfire, but I don't know of anyone using one.

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I sometimes use my 22-250 with 45gr barnes TSX, kills deer deader than a door nail but it definetly has limitations and shouldnt be used by a novice, I pass up everything except the text book type shot. the other 99% of the time I use my 350 or 6.5 rem mag though.

It may be a poor choice of words but I am smart enough to understand what you meant.
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I sometimes use my 22-250 with 45gr barnes TSX, kills deer deader than a door nail but it definetly has limitations and shouldnt be used by a novice, I pass up everything except the text book type shot. the other 99% of the time I use my 350 or 6.5 rem mag though.
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This brings back memories of a gun raffle at my sporting club years ago. A very well known poacher was present and the club was raffling off a Marlin .22 mag. The poacher anounced for everyone to hear that he has killed more deer with a .22 mag than with a deer rifle. He also stated it was a better deer killer than most deer rifles.

I had a poacher at a jobsite I was on a few years ago tell me that nothing kills deer as quick as a .222.

As for me, I don't have to worry about noise like poachers do and I like to have a .270 or .30-06 in my hands.
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I have a very accurate 222; however, for deer I would take nothing smaller than my 243.
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If you can't place the shot it doesn't matter what gun you have. It's just like hunting with a bow. You can shoot a deer in the rear end with a .300 and it's not going to have the effect of a .222 shot in the heart.

That being said, I am ashamed to say that my grandfather liked to hunt with a .22 hornet...I think that's taking it a little too far.

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A gut shot with a 300 Win mag or a 222 is still a gut shot. Put either cal. in the vitals & the deer is dead.
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I've shot a couple with a .222. It didn't kill them any quicker or less quick than the ones with my 300RUM. Hit 'em right and they fall over.

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I have a very accurate 222; however, for deer I would take nothing smaller than my 243.
I've killed many deer with a .222, but i'm not a poacher!
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In North Carolina there is no minimum caliber for deer or bear.

And yes people use a .22 Mag to kill them.
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Most people are assuming that Maine hunters carry a 22 mag.I doubt that is the case.It's probably an old regulation that was never updated.How would you feel in almost deerless woods with a 22 mag when a Moose walked by you?Pretty stupid I would think.They probably carry an 06.
that .22 Mag would kill that Moose also!

You and others busting on Maine Guys being able to use a .22 Mag to kill deer...

Have any of you Ever helped Butcher Pigs and Cattle?
All that is used is a .22lr to kill them, 1 shot and they are not getting back up!

A Deer and Even a Moose would be the exact Same Way with the Correct Shot!
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Maybe the hunters in Maine are better shots than the hunters in Pa.?

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No reason a .22 Mag would not kill a lung-shot deer quite handily at short range. If rimfires were legal in PA I would not hesitate to carry one of my 5mm Rem Rimfire Mags (a bit stouter than the .22 Mag) in deer season. Wait and pick your shot and start filling out the tag. Problem is.......probably not everyone would use proper restraint in waiting for shot placement. And that's where you'd run into trouble.


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I was not getting down on people using a .22 mag, just thought it odd, Personally I like to use my .300 Win mag and though not pretty I have seen deer gut shot with one of them and deer died very quickly, much faster than one hit with a lesser caliber. No I did not gut shoot one.

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Most people are assuming that Maine hunters carry a 22 mag.I doubt that is the case.It's probably an old regulation that was never updated.How would you feel in almost deerless woods with a 22 mag when a Moose walked by you?Pretty stupid I would think.They probably carry an 06.
You could kill them with an ice pick; it doesn't make it a sensible weapon for deer hunting.

that .22 Mag would kill that Moose also!

You and others busting on Maine Guys being able to use a .22 Mag to kill deer...

Have any of you Ever helped Butcher Pigs and Cattle?
All that is used is a .22lr to kill them, 1 shot and they are not getting back up!

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The first year I had my 300RUM, it was used by a friend who shot a small buck dead center in the guts on the first day of rifle season. Chunks of intestine, and corn kernels were found at the impact sight(from the neighbors corn field), and we trailed it for abourt half a mile until the snow melted and we couldn't follow the very sparse blood anymore. We looked the rest of the day for it, and couldn't find it. We found it the 3rd day of the season, about 500 yards from where we lost the last blood in a thicket two days earleir. The same buddy shot one the next year, in the same exact spot(middle of the guts), with a 6mm remington and it ran 200 yards, bedded down, and died in 15 minutes. The small bullet fragmented better(more bullet design than caliber size) and led to more shock and blood loss. It's not always the bigger caliber that wins out. But good shot placement wins every time. I'd take a good hit with a .22mag over a marginal hit with a 300 win mag any day.

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Your buddy needs practice and a set of nose plugs.
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If you PUSH any wounded deer it can go for miles including gut shot deer..If you know you hit the deer in the guts you wait a couple hours and it will die in a shorter distance..
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My uncle killed two bucks with a 22 hornet. One was a head shot the other was a heart shot. The heart shot deer didnt run more than 30 yards. Thats a bit more powerful though. A shot between the eyes with a 22lr or mag will do them in.
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In most cases hunting with any available rim fire is all but stupid. There is I've found a few deer over the years shot with way more people didn't find do to "iffy" shots.

One was a couple years ago on the second day that I put a tag on. It was still steaming when I found it. I hated to "waste" my tag, but I couldn't in good faith let it lay. It had a small caliber wound that wasn't instant death. Not sure a larger caliber would of helped, but I'm fairly certain it wouldn't have hurt. I should note to the internet police that there was only one area to park, and when I got there they were all leaving. One of them said thay had shot at a deer, but was almost certain he missed.

Most of my family is from Vermont. Most of them carry a 22 handgun in deer season. Even a GASP! auto. They are not used to hunt deer. They are used for dispatch only.

I know I have got to mortally wounded deer that needed dispatched. I used my rifle. Some have used knives, but I can't do it.

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I often wonder why topics like this emerge every year about the same time?
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Neither were PUSHED. Once we saw the corn and intestines from the first one, we backed out and and came in after lunch(he shot it around 8am). I appeared as though it had never bedded down to begin with and just wandered aimlessly. We would have waited longer, but the snow was melting, and we knew we needed it to track it. The second one, he watched bed down and die after he heit it. And yes, he's a horrible shot offhand, but where he stands there are no trees to use for a rest, and he rufuses to carry a shooting stick.

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A 22mag will definatley kill a deer out to about 75 yards i recon, especially if you shoot for high neck or the head. Not that im bragging or anything, but i was told my dad put many a deer on the table for us to eat with his 22mag when we were kids.
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If you PUSH any wounded deer it can go for miles including gut shot deer..If you know you hit the deer in the guts you wait a couple hours and it will die in a shorter distance..
Nope.I've helped recover well over a couple dozen gut shot deer that were left overnight and about 50% of them were alive the next morning after 14 hours.A couple hours usually doesn't cut it.Borden and I have a mutaul friend that shot a big 8 point accross from my house.He knew he hit it too far back and backed out immediately.We went in the next day to recover it and it was down within 60 yards from where he last saw it but still alive.
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Most people are assuming that Maine hunters carry a 22 mag.I doubt that is the case.It's probably an old regulation that was never updated.How would you feel in almost deerless woods with a 22 mag when a Moose walked by you?Pretty stupid I would think.They probably carry an 06.
that .22 Mag would kill that Moose also!

You and others busting on Maine Guys being able to use a .22 Mag to kill deer...

Have any of you Ever helped Butcher Pigs and Cattle?
All that is used is a .22lr to kill them, 1 shot and they are not getting back up!

A Deer and Even a Moose would be the exact Same Way with the Correct Shot!



That reminds me of a story by the well known sixgunner Hal Swigget. He was hunting Moose in Canada with a Cree Indian for a guide. The Indian carried a .22 single shot. While they were in the canoe they saw a cow moose swimming across the lake and the Indian wanted it so they rowed the canoe right up alongside it. The Indian shot it in the head at near point blank range and the moose kept right on swimming like nothing had happened. At that point Swiggett told the Indian to shoot it again. The Cree replied "can't, only had one bullet". They never did recover that moose.
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Bullet selection with any caliber is very important.
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Most people are assuming that Maine hunters carry a 22 mag.I doubt that is the case.It's probably an old regulation that was never updated.How would you feel in almost deerless woods with a 22 mag when a Moose walked by you?Pretty stupid I would think.They probably carry an 06.
that .22 Mag would kill that Moose also!

You and others busting on Maine Guys being able to use a .22 Mag to kill deer...

Have any of you Ever helped Butcher Pigs and Cattle?
All that is used is a .22lr to kill them, 1 shot and they are not getting back up!

A Deer and Even a Moose would be the exact Same Way with the Correct Shot!



That reminds me of a story by the well known sixgunner Hal Swigget. He was hunting Moose in Canada with a Cree Indian for a guide. The Indian carried a .22 single shot. While they were in the canoe they saw a cow moose swimming across the lake and the Indian wanted it so they rowed the canoe right up alongside it. The Indian shot it in the head at near point blank range and the moose kept right on swimming like nothing had happened. At that point Swiggett told the Indian to shoot it again. The Cree replied "can't, only had one bullet". They never did recover that moose.
And I would bet that Indian did not hit the + just shy of between the eyes and straight back in...hit tem straight on just a tad below the eyes in that + and they will hit the ground and Not get up and you do not have to be point blank range...even shooting pigs and cattle, you do not shoot point blank, you stand back and aim for that + and squeeze the trigger and down they go!
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Bullet selection with any caliber is very important.
That is something many are never taught!

I have seen many on this site complain about others shooting and how bad they are at shot placement but when you mention to them to teach that person shot placement they reply with "It isn't my Job to teach them that!"

2 of us have found that taking a poster sized Archery Deer Target and using it to teach young kids just starting out and also seasoned hunters that loose deer regularly, on Where to place their shots, the kids end up doing exactly that and the seasoned hunters stand and scratch their heads and say "I now understand why I been loosing deer"


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If I ever run into an angry moose again (been there, done that) I pray I have something more useful in my hands than a .22 mag.
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